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Texans Draft Pick Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Icehouse, Dec 24, 2006.

  1. swilkins

    swilkins Member

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    LZ said that AP will most likely get picked up by the Browns.

    I hope that they draft Okoye, if this happens. Perhaps pick up Kolb in later rounds.
     
  2. ima_drummer2k

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    I heard Lance's mock draft yesterday and he also had us taking Brady Quinn.

    Please tell me this was just another one of his many lame attempts at being a stand up comic. This is NOT the year to take a QB in the first round...
     
  3. rhester

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    Just say NO to Brady Quinn

    Please!
     
  4. rhester

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    Speaking of Brady Quinn

    That would be too ironic- pass up a stud QB for a defensive lineman
    then the next year pass up a stud defensive lineman for a QB.

    Say it won't happen. :eek:
     
  5. Achilleus

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  6. gucci888

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    That's what I'm hoping for as well. I really want to add a pass rusher like Okoye next to Mario, I think that would do wonders for our DL.

    This is what I'm hoping for:

    1a. AP/Okoye- I could go for either one, AP would add talent to our O
    1b. AP/Okoye- Pass rushing is still a HUGE problem for this team

    2a. Joe Staley- OT has always been a priority for this team
    2b. Micheal Griffin- We need a presence in our secondary

    3a. Kevin Kolb- Our QB of the future?
    3b. Rufus Alexander- If he pans out, him and Ryans would be a duo

    4a. Antonio Pittman- If we don't get AP, Pittman could be a steal
    4b. Steve Smith- We need another WR period
     
  7. pugsly8422

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    About an hour ago on 610 they were talking about the Texas and Broncos making a trade:

    Plummer
    Tatum Bell
    Draft Picks (didn't specify which ones, but did specify it was more than 1)

    for

    Texans first round pick

    Pugs
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Yeah, it's in the Carr thread.

    If the Denver picks aren't 1st and 2nd rounders, this would be a HORRIBLE trade.
     
  9. gucci888

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    McClain was on earlier today and said that there is no truth behind that article at all. He said it is more likely that the Texans trade up vs. down. I think this is just wishful thinking on the part of a Denver writer.

    Unless Denver is willing to give up a future 1st or their 2nd round this draft, I don't see this happening. Plummer will more than likely get waived so there is no point in trading for him.
     
  10. MadMax

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    McClain needs to let Justice know it's false then, too. Justice's blog is about it this morning...and it's all you hear on 790 is talk about this specific rumor.

    By the way..if the trade is for Plummer, Bell and the #21 for the #8...I'd do it. I think that's a likely upgrade at 2 positions. Then trade Carr for as high a draft pick as you can possibly get.
     
  11. updawg

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    Austin radio is discussing it as well. For an internet rumor it sure is starting to gain traction. It would be interesting to know what specifically is really being discussed. I hope the Texans aren't using Casserlys draft strategy manuals :eek:
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, the internet is where most of today's LAZY sports talkers/writers get their "scoops" nowadays anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me if there was nothing to this.

    Does Mark Berman have a blog? Probably not, as he must know that every sports writer in town would just lift information from it and claim it as their own. Anyway, he's the only guy in town I trust for real information. It would be interesting to hear what, if anything, he has to say about this.
     
  13. MadMax

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    Achilleus will like this:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4568716.html

    Feb. 21, 2007, 12:25AM
    ON PRO FOOTBALL
    Quinn would be mighty good pick


    By JEROME SOLOMON

    Coaches and personnel men start arriving today in Indianapolis for the NFL's version of Fashion Week.

    Instead of Vera Wang and Giorgio Armani, it's Leigh Steinberg and Drew Rosenhaus showing off their latest collection.

    It's all about looks, baby.

    How did Mario Williams jump from solid early entrant and likely top-10 pick to No. 1 overall in last year's draft? He ran fast, jumped high and stunned onlookers with his impressive physique as he paraded around all but naked for league decision-makers at last year's NFL combine.

    So the Texans ignored the substance and went with the looks. It will be years before we know if that was a shrewd move or a mistake, but passing up dynamic offensive stars for a defensive lineman has a wearing-white-after-Labor-Day sort of feel. If you can pull it off.

    This year, believe it or not, the Texans, who have the No. 8 pick in the draft, are even more likely to make a mistake than they were last year.

    Every player is available for the team that drafts No. 1, but typically the choices are limited to two players. (Three if, like the Texans, you force another hat into the ring.)

    Picking eighth puts a team at more jeopardy because a host of players are good enough to be selected at that spot in the first round.

    Over the next few months, you'll see lists of past No. 8 picks to give you an idea of the caliber of player chosen by teams in that position. DeAngelo Hall, Antrel Rolle, Jordan Gross, Roy Williams and Plaxico Burress are recent successes at the spot. David Terrell is not.

    Ignore that. The caliber of player available isn't limited to the guys picked there; all the guys taken afterward were available as well. In most years a solid case could be made for any player taken between No. 9 and No. 15, maybe even down to No. 20, to be the eighth pick.


    The best option
    Should they hang on to that pick, the Texans will have many quality players to choose from.
    Let's hope they aren't gun-shy about taking a quarterback because the last one they took didn't work out so well. Let's hope they are not afraid of taking Brady Quinn because the community backlash of passing on Vince Young was and is still so strong. Let's hope the Texans don't run from a franchise quarterback because he is "dropping" in the draft.

    Let's hope the Texans ignore all of that and take the guy who, after a season or two of seasoning, could lead them for the next decade.

    Not too long ago, Quinn was considered the clear No. 1 overall pick, and before the college bowl season began, he was thought to be the top quarterback available. LSU's JaMarcus Russell has since surpassed Notre Dame's all-time leading passer on most draft boards.

    "I have them neck-and-neck before the personal workouts. It just depends on what you're looking for," a scout for an AFC team said. "Either way, if Quinn drops as low as eight or nine, he would be a steal.

    "A lot of people who know what they're talking about think he will be the best quarterback out of this draft."

    Now, don't get too excited. Being the best quarterback in a draft doesn't mean you're destined to be a future NFL star. (See the No. 1 pick in 2002.) But if quarterback-desperate Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland and Minnesota don't scoop up Quinn — many mock drafts have him sliding past those teams — the Texans have to consider him at No. 8.


    A second chance
    Whether you keep David Carr or he exits and Jake Plummer comes to town, having Quinn on the sideline for a couple of seasons —assuming the vets can hold him off — wouldn't be a bad thing.
    Many said Carr couldn't handle the pressure of having a legitimate threat backing him up, so that eliminated Vince Young from draft consideration a year ago.

    Nothing else has worked for Carr, so why would this be a bad thing? A little heat from a young stud might help Carr focus. It might make him come to work earlier and leave later. It might push him to be a better quarterback.

    Plummer, extracted from the Broncos' starting lineup last season by rookie Jay Cutler, probably isn't interested in facing a similar situation.

    Yes, it would be easier for the Texans to avoid the publicity hit of drafting a quarterback when last year they could have had any of three rookie signal-callers — Young, Cutler or Matt Leinart — who finished the season as starters.

    But if you're making a cross-country drive and stupidly pass on one gas station — with the fuel gauge closing in on 'E' — you had better stop at the next one if you get the chance.

    Quinn might not be the No. 10 the Texans should have had, but if he grades as a 10, they can't pass him up.

    He just might be the last gas station for many a mile.
     
  14. rhester

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    Somehow passing on Vince Young and passing on Brady Quinn does not seem to compare to me.
    If Brady Quinn is anywhere near a Vince Young talent he won't be there at #8.

    The facts are there is not a Vince Young or Matt Leinhart in this draft so if you need a sure thing QB you might want to wait.

    Be patient Texans- draft a stud player. You pick the position, just don't blow the pick.
     
  15. msn

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    Right. Because everyone knows it's at least ten years before good quarterbacks will come out of the draft again. I mean, there were three last year and two this year, so logically it follows that there won't be any for years to come.

    I've thrown this article in my "drivel" bin (along with the majority of Richard Justice's work).
     
  16. Achilleus

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    It's amazing how just a few days can determine so much. I remember DeAngelo Hall saying that his 40 time at the combine would add nine million dollars to his signing bonus (4.15 indoor track).

    Too bad the combine is not open to the public. I would go. Bradymania is about to sweep Indianapolis...and then the entire world.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. The Cat

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    You're saying there's no possibility of getting that kind of player at #8, yet one of the players you referenced (Matt Leinart) fell even further than that a season ago.

    I'm not a huge Brady Quinn fan, but you certainly can't make a legit argument that all the stud quarterbacks will be gone before pick #8. It's too random of a position.
     
  18. gunn

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    Unless he was somehow running his 40 on the downslope of a hill, he never ran a 4.15. No one is that fast, I don't care what track they are on. And you can watch the combine on the NFL Network.
     
  19. Achilleus

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    K...

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/deangelo_hall
     
  20. Achilleus

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    As long as Spero Dedes is not working the combine for the NFL network I will watch it. Man, I can't stand when he hosts Total Access. The guy has absolutely no personality.
     

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