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Texans Draft Pick Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Icehouse, Dec 24, 2006.

  1. weslinder

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    Levi Brown is a bad fit. Picking him is picking a 1st round LT for the sake of picking a 1st round LT. He's too big and slow for a Kubiak tackle. He's a good tackle for locking up a bull-rusher, not for zone blocking. Kubiak would move Brown to Guard, and the #8 pick is too high for a guard.
     
  2. MadMax

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    i can't imagine Levi going that high. i haven't seen him that high on any of the other mock boards. in fact, i've heard some say we should trade down and take him.

    my bet is that if AP is gone, we take another DE to bookend with mario. i'd be fine with that. i'd also be fine with secondary help.
     
  3. rhester

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    Good assessment

    Adams
    Anderson
    Landry
    A Peterson

    one of these would be there. they need to really do their homework

    one of these players could really be a difference maker.
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    I say DT or secondary. Weaver wasn't bad this year. We need someone in the middle that can take some pressure off of Mario.
     
  5. right1

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    The Texans 1,000 rusher in 2007 will be......

    One of the most decorated athletes in college football...Durable, aggressive runner with sturdy legs...Runs with good body lean and balance...Changes speed smoothly and has an excellent upfield burst...Tough to stop inside when he gets the pads down...Solid blocker who knows how to shorten his stride through traffic...Recently timed at 4.65 in the 40-yard dash...His regular season game total of 6397 yards rushing established an NCAA Division 1-A record, breaking the previous mark of 6279 yards by Ricky Williams of Texas (1995-98)...Including bowl games, he became the first player in college annals to rush for over 7000 yards (7125) in a career, breaking the old Big Ten Conference record of 5589 yards by Ohio State’s Archie Griffin...Tied the NCAA all-time record held by Williams and Marcus Allen of Southern California with twelve 200-yard rushing performances...Also set Big Ten all-time records for most rushing attempts (1220), points (426) and 71 touchdowns (both rushing and total)...Personally outrushed the opposing team 29 times in his 43 career starts...Became the fifth player in college history to rush for over 1000 yards in a season four times.

    1999 Season...Unanimous All-American and All-Big Ten Conference first-team selection...Winner of the Heisman Trophy, Doak Walker Award and the Maxwell Award, as the nation’s top college player...Associated Press, Football News, The Sporting News and Walter Camp Foundation National Player of the Year...Became the first player in Big Ten annals to lead the conference in rushing three times...Despite missing six quarters of action, he finished second in the nation in rushing with an average of 169.5 yards per game...Became the first player in Big Ten history to lead the conference in rushing, all-purpose yardage and scoring in the same season...Tied a conference season-record by earning four Player of the Week honors...Carried 337 times for 2034 yards (6.0 avg) and 20 touchdowns...Added 9 yards on a reception...Scored 120 points...Averaged 170.3 all-purpose yards per game.
     
  6. Lil' Worm

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  7. jopatmc

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    LOL. That dude sounds pretty good. I've always felt that if he were put in the right situation and given the carries, he would produce. He's not spectacular but he's a load and he gets better with more carries. "The Great Dayne"
     
  8. No Worries

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    Let's trade for "The Great Dayne".
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    Of course the following might be more smoke, but John McClain does, in spite of all of his faults, seem to be pretty well connected, and there seems to be a strong desire to get Peterson around here, so I thought this was worth posting:

    From McClain's blog:

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    Someone well-connected with the Browns has convinced me that they want Adrian Peterson desperately, which depresses me. I was hoping the Oklahoma running back might slip through the cracks and fall to the eighth spot so the Texans could get him, but now I don't think so.

    Here's what has to happen: If JaMarcus Russell ends up going first to the Raiders, Brady Quinn has to impress the scouts so much before the draft that the Browns just have to have him. Quinn is from Columbus, Ohio, and makes no secret of his desire to play for the Browns. If you're like me and you want the Texans to be able to draft Peterson, you need for the first three picks to be Russell, Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas and Quinn. And it doesn't matter who takes whom. If you're like me, you want Quinn to enhance his ranking before the draft.

    [/rquoter]
     
  10. The Cat

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    I may be in the minority, but I'm absolutely sick of passing on quality offensive linemen year after year because they don't fit the right "scheme." Spencer looked too big to play tackle in the Kubiak scheme as well, and he played very solid before the injury.

    The reality is, offensive linemen can play multiple schemes if they have the talent. But our offensive line hasn't had that in recent years, and it's because we pass up guys like Jamaal Brown, Alex Barron and a host of others in the first round or two for a variety of those reasons. I don't know if Brown will be one of the best players available at pick 8, but if he is, I hope we take him. I'm tired of the excuses... this offensive line needs a serious infusion of talent - the kind at the top of a draft, and it's time to act on it.
     
  11. weslinder

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    I kind of agree, but Brown won't be the best pick one the board when the Texans pick. He's really a 15-20 talent who gets bumped because he's the second best player at one of the most important positions. And besides, the big P pick (Joe Staley) fits the scheme perfectly, and he should be available when the Texans pick in the 2nd round. In my opinion, Joe Staley should be the Texans number 1 target. If they have to trade down to around 20th and pick him in the 1st round, they should do it.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    i'll see your sick-and-tired and raise it to include the team as a whole. how many players, period, have we passed on because of "schemes"? i really wanted julius peppers in '02 and it infuriated me to no end that capers didn't think he was a "fit" - can any of these guys actually COACH anymore? same last year with reggie bush; he didn't "fit," as if reggie bush has a singular talent... good googly moogly; it's frustrating.

    i get sticking with a system, especially a proven one, but if your system can't find a place for julius peppers or reggie bush then, i'm sorry, there's a giant flaw in the system and it should be trashed yesterday.
     
  13. updawg

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    Don't forget VY :D
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    Or DJ two drafts ago.
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    If you want an offensive lineman, the following might be depressing for you. Personally, I think everybody puts too much creedence in the "What did Denver draft" line of thinking. People make a big deal about the lack of running backs in early rounds, but if you look at the last 10 years, something strinking stands out.

    First day picks (rounds 1-3) 1996-2006 that were running backs



    2004 - Round 2 - Tatum Bell
    2003 - Round 3 - Quentin Griffin
    2002 - Round 2 - Clinton Portis
    1996 - Round 3 - Detron Smith

    Total: 4

    First day picks (rounds 1-3) that were offensive linemen



    2003 - Round 1 - George Foster

    Total: 1

    If the Texans won't draft a running back early because Denver never did, then they definitely won't be drafting a lineman. Beyond Foster, the Broncos have two fourth rounders on their roster (Cooper Carlisle and Ben Hamilton), and everybody else is an undrafted free agent or an extremely late pick like a seventh rounder.

    Again I think this angle is given too much weight, but at least for the Broncos, the trend is pretty striking, especially considering the fact that you field 5 linemen vs. 1 or 2 running backs.
     
  16. rhino17

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    Hey, if you havnt noticed, this is not the Denver Broncos, it is the Houston Texans. Just cause kubiak coached in Denver, doesnt mean he will run the texans the same way. The texans are a different team with different needs. Those Broncos teams had good defenses and solid qb play. They also had a better oline. A great rb was not neccesary. The texans however do not have good qb play or defense yet. A playmaking runningback could help this team right now and get the offense going.
     
  17. kaleidosky

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    His main point was that the O line can be drafted later for this type of offensive system...which, whether you choose to believe it or not, is very similar to Denver's.

    I'm not sure if you just didn't read his post or don't get it.
     
  18. jopatmc

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    Round 1: Okoye or Peterson
    Round 2: Joe Staley
    Round 3: QB
    Round 4: fast, fast, mean linebacker
    Round 5: Smart free safety

    Free Agency: Cornerback
     
  19. Achilleus

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    Who is available in free agency at CB?
     
  20. hatemavs4life

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    Asante Samuels or that Buffalo guy, # 22, name Nate Clements. :D
     

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