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Texans Draft-Day Ineptitude (First Day)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Baqui99, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

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    I wouldn't go that far but what I find most interesting is that they drafted Mario Williams first in the entire draft last year yet all I'm hearing about what they need in this year's draft is a "true pass rushing DE". Uhhh, wasn't that supposed to be Mario? Now Mario was the top pick in the entire draft but it's Demeco Ryans who won DROY and is the face of their 2007 season ticket sales campaign:

    http://www.houstontexans.com/

    I'm not piling on Mario because he wasn't responsible for being picked 1st and he did end up playing hurt. What I'm questioning is the decision making process of the Texans. They picked Mario ahead of 3 potential franchise QBs and the Heisman Trophy winner but he's somewhat of an afterthought now. This just looks bad and it leaves me scratching my head as to what they are trying to do here.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    That's all your hearing? You can't be serious.
     
  3. rhester

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    Chester Pitts is OK- consistent improvement good starter, no pro bowler, but we picked him at the top of the second round and he was projected 3-4 round- that's the sad part, why reach for a guy like that?
     
  4. rhester

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    I'm still looking for Mario to be a good player but he isn't no DeMarcus Ware and we picked him #1 overall.

    Mario needs to be put in on one side of the line so that he can develop his skills, he has not shown a good bull rush and he has the strength to get a much better push, I think his toe injury really slowed his progress, looking for double digit sacks this season.
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    To help him out so he doesn't get double-teamed. And no one is saying that's our #1 need. It's just one of our MANY needs.

    So I guess if the #1 draft pick doesn't win ROY, he's a bust? I'll bet there are plenty of great players that never won ROY.

    The 2 highlighted parts sort of contradict eachother. I don't think he's an "afterthought" but, like you said, he did play hurt all year. Not making excuses, but that's just a fact.

    Let's see how he plays this year, now that (hopefully) he's at 100%. I know you like to dwell on the past instead of concentrating on the present and future, but just give it a shot.
     
  6. HillBoy

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    Nope, I'm really serious about this. Virtually every source I see on the Texans' team needs for the next season all say that they need to find a true pass rushing DE. My response is Huh? If that is true then what does this mean (or say) about MW? Was he playing out of position and should he be moved to DT? More importantly, what does this say about the decision to make him the first overall pick in the 2006 draft? Was that really such a sound football decision as we were told over and over by the Texans? It's because of questions like these that I can certainly understand why the VYOFs and others are so up in arms over the 2006 draft and why this is represents a breach that may never be overcome.
     
  7. Lil Francis

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    2 good first round picks(Dunta and Andre) and basically 1 good 2nd rounder (Ryans) in 5 drafts. McNair knows the heat is on this offseason after passing up Young/Bush last offseason. Those 20,000 no shows for every home game will just expand if they blow another draft.
     
  8. HillBoy

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    Yeah, I can see that but still you have to admit that to even voice something like this does not look quite right not when we were sold the line on Mario's superior physical talents and what he'd bring to the position. Perhaps the term "afterthought" was a bit harsh on my part but don't you find it just a little bit strange that top pick in the 2006 draft is not being used to promote this team? Why do you suppose that is happening?

     
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    Actually, it looks pretty normal. As good as Julius Peppers is, he needs Michael Rucker. As good as Dwight Freeney is, he has Robert Mathis.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    I think one reason it's happening because a lot of Texans' fans refuse to look forward and continue to whine about us not taking VY or Bush.

    It probably also has nothing to do with the fact that DeMeco Ryans won DROY. Nope, nothing at all.
     
  11. SwoLy-D

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    That's IF he's gone... IF... if is good...
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  12. armyman789

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    i hope you're being sarcastic, cuz if not where the hell have you been the last couple years.
     
  13. percicles

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    Well I didn't want to start a new thread but Page 2 did a 2010 NFL Mock Draft. Pretty funny stuff.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/070227&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1

     
  14. armyman789

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    It can be justified to take a project player that high as long as they dominate the league after one or two years. Sort of like Brett Favre, Manning errg these are all quarterbacks... but still you get my point. I just cant think of any other players at other positions(im too young) that started slow and then dominated.
     
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    The only positions on a football team ts mainly just that single position by itself on the field is QB, halfback, and center. And depending on formation, tight end and fullback. On defense besides either a nose tackle or middle linebacker depending on scheme, there's 2 of every position. You can't really draft 2 Peyton Mannings in consecutive years, but you can draft 2 consecutive Orlando Paces.

    Mario Williams is just one DE. It'd NEVER hurt to have another good one. That's like saying cuz Texans got Dunta Robinson they don't need to look for another corner, or they got Andre Johnson so they don't have to get another receiver. Now if they're saying they need a QB or running back after they drafted a guy for that one position then you know they didnt get it done the year before.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    That's really unfair.

    Any expansion team, or any team period, would have taken Bosselli if he was available.

    You can't blame the Texans for what Jacksonville's inept medical staff did to his shoulder.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the texans are saying they took bosselli because they had to take him off jville's hands to get wand and walker. not saying it publicly but that's what some media guys are saying. they are saying the texans were fully aware of the risk.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    if there's a hall of fame caliber tackle available and your current roster consists of 0 players, you bet you'd take him regardless of whatever medical risks are there.

    bosselli was the only decent Olineman available at the time of the expansion draft, and if they hadn't taken him, everybody in houston would have been pissed.

    simply can't blame them for that.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I'm not blaming them for anything. and I don't know if people would have been pissed if they passed on a lineman who was already experiencing injuries.
     

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