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Texans Draft-Day Ineptitude (First Day)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Baqui99, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. rhino17

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    They have a slightly better shot at Peterson now that the Browns have signed Jamal Lewis
     
  2. wallyj12

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    yea there is definately more light now down the adrian peterson tunnel after hearing the browns signed lewis. It still could be a long shot that hes there for us at number 8 but even if not im hoping the texans stay put and dont trade down. I would be excited if we continued to build on our D-line by grabbing Adams, Anderson, or Branch. On another note I read on realgm.com that the raiders are leaning more towards taking Johnson with the first pick, with that being said what do you guys think about Russell sliding all the way down to us?
     
  3. hatemavs4life

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    Don't laugh ... I have seen a few mock draft scenarios depicting this very possiblility. Hey, what are the odds? Probably pretty astronomical.

    for more possibilities ... log on to hailredskins.com/MockDraft
     
  4. rhester

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    its funny that some of you guys still criticize the "vince is the inspirational" leader argument given that the guy you keep defending has his teamates openly calling for his head. I guess that doesn't make a difference either.
     
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    We all figured that out awhile back. Was it your site that had that scathing article about VY and how you're looking forward to his failing in the nfl?
     
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    Well, basically the only people who still think VY sucks are Texan fans.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Oh, please. Show me one post here where someone says VY sucks.

    No one thinks he sucks. It's just that, unlike ut fans, we're not quite ready to vote him into the Hall of Fame yet. And most of us Texan fans believe that it's possible to win without him. I know that sounds crazy, but a lot of other teams have managed to do it.
     
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    It was a choice between either Carr and Mario Williams or
    Carr and Vince Young.


    Because Carr would have still been starting to the same point in the season that he was relieved by Sage.

    Bottom line is............Mario Williams, if he stays healthy, is going to be big time here in Houston. Vince Young, if he stays healthy, is going to be big time in the NFL, and he will always be remembered as the one that got away.

    The only hope we have is that somewhere down the road, Vince plays out his contract and is able to sign as a free agent in H-town and hope it happens before we grind all our teeth down to little nubs watching him scramble and/or throw for the winning score against us and watching him running and throwing all over television in January.


    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  10. MadMax

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    This just isn't true. Carr and VY would have never been on the same team, together.

    They didn't have to extend Carr's contract. They made that decision FIRST...and that dictated what they did in the draft.

    The extension for Carr meant Leinart, Cutler and VY were off the board for the Texans. They weren't gonna pile that kind of money on one position.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    First off, Im not saying Carr is the answer. My talk about VY has nothing to do with Carr. VY had some lucky times last year. Like I said, the Titans could have easily ended the season with 5-6 wins...which would have hushed many, many people. Vince has great potential, no doubt. But, I still think that things fell perfectly for him and that next year, the Titans dont match their win total from a year ago. Im not knocking Vince, but I do think some people are completely hyping him up more than he deserves.

    Speaking of Carr, I currently dont see any upgrades. That's the only reason Im willing to go to war with him next season. Ramsey? Plummer? Green? Sage? These are the names being thrown around. Uhhh, no thanks. If we were gonna pass up VY a year ago...then decide to throw in the towel just a year later and go with a player that, imo, has less ability than Carr, then thats just frustrating as hell.

    I think the Texans are in a real bind right now. I think the best thing to do at this point is to shore up the other areas of the team and go with Carr for another season. I just dont see who would do a better job behind center. Then, once youve got the rest of the team better established, you reassess the QB spot and go from there.
     
  12. The Cat

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    Evidence, please.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    it was, though i didn't write it.
     
  14. MadMax

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    hushed who?? most of us never expected to even see him play last season! i never expected him to come in as a rookie and be as effective as he was. i said he'd need to be developed. but i also said his potential was too great to pass on.

    it wouldn't have hushed anyone. VY performed far better than most people expected...with a team he inherited at 0-4.
     
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  16. Hey Now!

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    that's fine, if overly simplistic. but how do wins and losses help you determine needs when it comes to free agency and the draft?

    why are we discussing the super bowl champions in relation to the texans? entirely different planets.

    when it counted? when it counted?! LOL. you mean, like, sometime between quarters 1-4?... they gave up 30 points a game that year - THIRTY! and while the offense was certainly well below average, trying to spin that year as the offense didn't score enough points to win is, i'm sorry, the height of ridiculous.

    uhm.... who ever said such a thing? improving the defense would make the team better.

    and their win total grew from 2 to 6... why are you whinning about the draft?

    and that's because they didn't draft vince young...? winning three times as many games is, at the very least, an indication they're moving toward the playoffs, regardless of how far away they might be.

    this team's problems are rooted in poor prior drafts, poor free agency choices and cap mismanagement. it has NOTHING to do with the first pick of last year's draft. absolutely ZERO. 0.

    so... in carr's second season, playing for an expansion team, you determined he was the team's "biggest" problem? wow. in a post that continues to redefine ridiculous, this is far and away your best one yet.

    no, i'm trying to explain the rationale behind their actions last year - they pinpointed defense as their biggest need and drafted accordingly.

    no. it wasn't. please stop. it was carr + the #1 overall pick vs. young + cap room. and even if they HAD jettisoned carr, young was no lock. i think he would have been the choice, but, again, mario williams filled arguably the team's second biggest need behind the OL.

    and... you've topped yourself again. bravo! yeah, that's the idea - be "smart"..... that's all it takes.
     
  17. updawg

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    It absolutely has something to do with last years #1. They still have a huge problem at QB. That could have been fixed last year.
     
  18. Hey Now!

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  19. updawg

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    ever heard the phrase you create your own luck
     
  20. Achilleus

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    Are rezdawg and updawg on the same side of this debate? It could get confusing, otherwise.
     

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