This irritates me because it doesn't have to be this way. This team has depth and talent. The ST units aren't full of scrubs. Unlike most, I hate to nitpick a succesful - But, execution on ST is starting to look progressively worse each and every game.
So far only the defence (the greatest strength of the team) has cost the Texans a game. I don't thinkt special teams is going to cost them a win; they've gotten better since the buy but still have a lot of work to do. I predict they play much better as the season goes on.
Teams stick a bunch of fringe/undrafted players trying to make the team on special teams during the preseason because if they're going to make the team, it's going to be on special teams. A lot of those players get cut or put on the practice squad. So yeah, preseason special teams generally has scrubbier scrubs than regular season special teams do.
Well I guess that means we need to cut all our ST players and bring back those scrubs! I mean Holliday didn't find his way to the endzone unassisted, he had to have some good blocking on his way to pay dirt each time. I guess the Broncos have a ST unit full of all-stars since they got Holliday free twice for the past couple weeks.
Not sure what your talking about. First GB TD came due to an offsides penalty on Posey during a punt....Offsides on a PUNT??!!? Things snowballed from there but it could have been very different had that play not happened. What the **** is going on out there. It has been comically bad this year.
I was ok with letting go of Jacoby....He had his chance and proved to be unreliable time and again…with regards to Trindon…that was a mistake….The kid had and continues to have the tools necessary to provide an impact similar to Duante Hall in his prime. Putting all the pressure in the world on the young kid to “be special” or lose his job led to his demise in Houston. That’s on Kubiak and Marciano. With regards to Marciano, I say fire him today. Can it get worse than it is now? Very unlikely….Can it get better with a change at the top? Possibly.
Aside from being afraid of kicking the ball to Hester (who hasn't returned a kick or a punt for a TD all year), ST has actually looked a little better the last few weeks. NEWSFLASH: There is no such thing as a perfect team.
Like the last 2 weeks? Two of the best in the game at ST didn't do **** on returns (except for Hester's first return in the CHI game). Coverage has been better, but no one wants to see it. *shrug*
I just see that as a sign we've completely given up on our coverage teams. Squibbing it and conceding 30-40 yards every kickoff is not fair for our defense. On a brighter note, Graham has been solid for us.
Dont forget the penalty on Barwin when they were attempting a FG...that led to a touchdown. ST screwed that game against the Packers.
LOL Yeah but ST didn't get burned for the ensuing 41 yard TD reception. Nor were they on the field for the other 5 TD passes. Let's not forget the multiple pass interference calls that also extended drives. If not for Watt's 2 sacks, the Packers totally owned bulls-on-parade.
Defense should not have been on the field for that play. Also noted by rezdawg...penalty by ST on FG attempt let to a TD. Not trying to excuse the poor play by the defense but they should have never been in that situation to begin with. Offsides by the punt team is the most inexcusable penalty in Football. If posey wasn’t a high draft pick I would cut his ass to send a message.
Even if you give those two touchdowns to the special teams. The defense gave up four more touchdowns and two field goals. That's still more points than the offense put up (24) and more points most of the defenses in the league score per game. Shoot it's even more than the Packers average per game (26.6). So no, special teams didn't cost the Texans that game.
I think the point is that you cant just generalize it like that. The entire game can change when you have such momentum changers/buzzkills. Had Posey not gone offsides on the punt, that could have been a Texan TD on the next drive...the entire outcome of the game can change from there on. You cant just say, "take away those TDs and they still have 4 more"...because the entire context of the game changes at that point. Our defense played poorly, no doubt, but its too hard to say how much the game could have changed had the ST played up to par.
If you say that, then you have to say you can't blame the game on special teams. You can't blame it on Posey's penalty because it was the first of many mistakes. If the defense stopped the Packers after the penalty, no one would make a big deal about it. Not to mention the defense had it's share of penalties as well. Joseph's pass interference comes to mind.
LOL, we're 8-1....and we're going round and round about the 1 loss.... I guess Texans fans are so used to losing, we just don't know how to handle success.
Actually, my point was that the special teams didn't cost them the Packers game. I understand special teams is an issue but the team as a whole is still very solid. Probably the best in the league.
My two cents on the Texans special teams. 1. From a common sense standpoint, for a team up against the cap, have great defensive and offensive personnel, it would be logical to invest their few remaining resources on shoring up STs. And not, for example, trade an impact ST player to the Bears to help them be the #1 special teams in the NFL. 2. Just because something hasn't cost us a game doesn't mean it can't in the future. Something that's bad is going to be a detriment. Sure, it may only mean the difference between 23-10 vs 23-17 against the Jets. But once playoffs roll around, imagine Holliday taking one to the house against us. I'm sure that can easily cost us a game. I know it's in-season and they can't do much about it now. But it is a sore spot that will likely continue to plague the rest of this season.
Buffalo and Chicago ...ST coverage was better K. Martin doesn't have the small hands and has shown less bobbling than I saw with Trindy - he also had a nice run called back, he'll get better too Punting is inconsistent, but I've seen good punts as well FG is okay, could be better No doubt ST is our weakest of the 3 areas, but out ST has cost us zero games, and i really don't see that changing with improved coverage shown... Hester didn't do sheet..we are too complete in our offense and defense. 8-1,....scoreboard
