[Texans & Carr] Someone please explain something to me....

you have a very selective, or short, memory.

 

He needed double team help blocking Mario when the Texans played the Jets this year, if that tells you anything.

 

if the actual situation is that if we lose we get the 5th pick or so and if we win we get the 8th pick i fully expect the Texans brass to capitalize on that.

the colts win was goody gumdrops.. save some face for the fans.. yahoo.. time to suck again though.

 

I was expecting 7 wins? No.

I was expecting Carr to have to post 7 wins to save his job? Yes.

 

Last week I was sick, this week I am still sick (well because of Yao) but I am also proud because Houston looked like a real NFL team on Sunday and I cant wait till next week to see us do it again.

Do we have issues? Yes
Is this offseason critical? Yes
Are we close to competing for a division title with Indy? No

But on Sunday the Texans played with heart a made Houston Proud!

 

If you look at the losses accumulated up to week 6, the problem was largely the D, yet your QB had some opportunities to make plays to potentially get wins inspite of whatever obstacles there were.

If you look at Carr's stats yes, there has been improvement in some areas, while he has regressed it seems with the exception of Sundays game in other areas.

Yesterday, was one of the few times DC has delivered in the clutch and still it wasnt a game winning TD drive, Kris Brown still had make the clutch kick.

Bottom line, there comes a time when the OL or RB problems, etc no longer matter. Carr largely has not demonstrated the leadership to engineer drives and make plays when the game is on the line.

Sorry to say, but Carr is not a playmaker. Kuby STILL has largely lost confidence in him but beating the Colts and why not, the hapless Browns to close a season that potentially sees the Texans finish one game off their best ever has some perks.

If nothing else, Carr can demonstrate that he has skills and can play for someone else and maybe we can get a higher upgraded draft pick because of this victory and next weeks? Who knows?

 

Carr isnt clutch? Name one performance this season where he failed in the clutch.

The only one i can think of is the giants where jameel cook fumbled the ball. Against tennessee, Kubiak was just too conservative to give Carr a chance to win the game, we had to settle for a tie, which he still got done. Thats bull**** to say Carr fails in teh clutch. In his career there have only been a few times where he blew oppurtunities.

 

Please....for the love of GOD...stop posting.

 

Then why are you wasting your time reading a Texans thread? I think it's a little dramatic for you to say that the Texans are a joke. But, you're probably one of those people that would still say that after they won a Super Bowl. So sad.

 

Of a guy who has posted maybe 1 or 2 significant, non-garbage time 300 yard games despite being a starter for his entire 5 -year career?

I don't think so.

Carr could be great? Man, a win against a slumping colts team cures a lot of ills. This is the same guy who had a 3.0 QB rating last week.

 

Sign Plummer and draft Peterson and we'll be N.O of new yr




1.Detroit - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
Hesitant to take a QB after the Harrington fiasco, the Lions decide to give it another try.

2.Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
With Quinn off the board, they go with the best player in the draft.

3.Tampa Bay - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
A pass rush threat off the edge is a must find.

4.Arizona - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
The Cardinals must find a way to protect Leinart.

5.Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
Would go higher if not for injury concerns.

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Carr threw a pretty deep ball when he was allowed to.

Unfortunately he wasn't allowed to very often.

And as for the Colts game, try looking for my other posts related to the game. What have I been saying? Carr = done and Dayne = the reason we won.

Don't mistake me for Tmac#1 or some other poster who has the NFL IQ of a gnat..

 

Yeah but that doesn't get to the heart of his issues - bad pocket presence, bad judgment, and a Dave Krieg-esque ability to fumble the ball. Those are the reasons why he is limited to dink and dunk.

I think the possibility of him being great anywhere is slim to none - he's just not that good.

 

I'll buy that no problem.

I fully expect him to start, and succeed, almost wherever he goes.

My thoughts are that David just never had much of a fair shake to be a QB here, when he wasn't running for his life from an all too effective 5 man blitz, he was facing 7 and 8 man zones because the Texans couldn't run the ball, and when they could run the ball and control the gameclock the defense couldn't stop the opposition so he was forced to play from behind, and beyond that his offensive mentors seemed at times like they were using a magic 8 ball to call in plays.

He made his mistakes, no doubt, some real dumbass mistakes.. the kind of stuff that makes you go "What in the f*ck, David"... but to say that he was given an equal shot at success as any rookie QB is just flat out wrong.

Other GMs know this and are going to give him plenty of opportunity at a second shot..

Just my two cents, we haven't heard the last of David Carr in the NFL.

 

You don't think Oakland gets a QB?

Carr, Like Steve Francis, is the face of the losing fanchise.
It has had 5 losing seasons. . . .
It may not be all his fault [like Steve Francis] but he bears some of the blame.
So, Like Steve Francis. .. Carr has to go.

Rocket River
but
I seriously doubt Carr goes anywhere. . .

 

How many rookie QB's can you name that got to start for 5 years despite having no real success? Sure, he wasn't with a good team, but so are most top pick rookies. He got more than a reasonable opportunity to improve and show something in the league and just didn't do it.

 

Speaks volumes to how bad the Texans are/were/have been. They weren't just bad... they weren't just expansion team bad.... they've been unprecedented bad.

And yet, if they win the Bills game (which they should have won), and just one of the two Titans games... they're at least a .500 team.

The Browns are VERY similiar to the Texans... they did make the playoffs that one year, but it was more by fluke than a team "building towards long-term success." Kelly Holcomb had the game of his life, and he's never heard from again.

It simply sucks to be an expansion team in this day and age... as the new rule changes left ZERO room for error. The Texans made several that they couldn't recover from in 5 years... drafting Boseli, drafting Carr, not improving the O-line, drafting only for a 3-4 defense, hiring Casserly.

 

I heard a few weeks ago during a New Orleans game that they brought in 34 new players this year. If that's true, that's a pretty amazing management job. It also says the opportunities are there to rebuild a team fairly quickly with the right leadership (and a lot of luck, probably). Anyone know anything about that or hear anything like that?

 

Well, if you have the leader in place, who has a clear vision... a lot can get accomplished.

Casserly severely lacked a vision/plan... and when you combine that with the limited capability of an expansion team, things can go south pretty quick.