Well, he was going into a contract year so giving up a 2nd Rounder for him with his age and health probably had something to do with it, also since everyone knew he would be looking for the big bucks this year. He'll probably have a hard time looking for that big contract as well. Shaun Alexander did all he could to warrant a big deal but the Edge really didn't do a whole lot to stand out. Also, with the emergence of no name guys like Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, and of the 3 Denver RBs, I think teams may start realizing you don't need big names, you can probably find a good RB on your own team.
Edge had 1500 yds and 13 tds this past season. It's not what Alexander did, but I'd say he stood out. I'd also say he's still worth at least a 2nd rounder. I know how the NFL works and they would probably not get more than a 3rd rounder for him. That is what strikes me as so funny about people thinking the Texans should get a 1st rounder for Carr.
draft picks are probably most in important in the NFL than any other sport. with a hard cap and so many positions to fill. does that justify edge not commanding a number 1, I don't know.
exactly.....Carr is worth, given his salary and talent, about a 4th or 5th rounder...mmmaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyybeeeeee 3rd at best.
Running backs after 4-5 years have little value on the trade market because most people think they are about to be on the decline. In other positions they are usually hitting their prime.
Two words: A.J. Feeley. The quarterback position is valued entirely different than running back. There's absolutely no comparison in terms of the trade value each can fetch. For example, there are several teams reportedly interested in signing Chris Simms to a bigger deal this offseason, even though (since he's restricted and will get the highest qualifying offer) they would have to surrender a first and third-round draft pick to do so. Granted, Carr's contract is a bit larger than the one Simms will likely sign, but take a look at Simms' third season and compare it to Carr's third season. In many areas, they're very similar. The age is similar too. You can't begin to convince me, with all the horrible gambles that teams have made in previous years on quarterbacks, that Carr wouldn't get more than a third-round pick.
To sign an NFL restricted free agent, you have to give up a draft pick in the round he was drafted (third for Simms). Where are you getting that extra first round pick from?
Give Carr the number one defense in the league (that's where Tampa Bay ranked last season) instead of the No. 31, and his W/L record might be a bit better. Just a hunch.
http://football.calsci.com/FreeAgency.html The rule of giving up a draft pick in the round the player was drafted only applies for the lowest qualifying offer. In cases where players get the middle or top level qualifying offer (what Simms will get), the rules change to a first round pick (for a middle) and a first and third (for a top).
My point was that Edge, even with a serious knee injury a few years ago, is still as good and productive as the come. He has shown no sign of slowing down, yet. While he, in realistic terms, is worth more than a 3rd rounder, that is about all any team is willing to give up with today's NFL.
I meant that Larry Johnson was a no name guy before this season. I didn't know he was that popular before breaking out this season, oh yeah, he wasn't.
I would say what Alexander did this season had a little something to do with it, both were being shopped last summer and both were in contract seasons. Alexander ran almost 1900 yards and had 27 TDs!! I'm not taking anything away from Edge but like you said, the Colts probably won't get more than a 3rd Rounder for him.
So lets revisit the first lines of the article. Abraham wants out According to the New York Daily News, Abraham has told friends he wants out because he doesn't feel like he's part of the Jets' long-term plans. "He wants to get the hell out of New York," a person close to Abraham said. "He's pretty upset." Money always solves the problem. The franchise tag doesn't mean long term committment though. These players need to stop acting like they give a **** about the game and just admit that it has to do with money. Chaaaa-ching!
Dude, spending 5 freaking seconds using Google will give you an answer. Let me save you the trouble, though: NO. Johnson finished a distant third in 2002 voting.
