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Texans acquire Laremy Tunsil

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Aug 31, 2019.

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Do you like the trade?

Poll closed Aug 30, 2020.
  1. YES

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  1. magman

    magman Member

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    i like the players they got, but the price was steep. If it works, it'll be worth it, but damn! The whole situation was self inflicted though.

    Not a fan of the cost of the trade, but I do see the value in the players they got, compared to what they had in house.

    The Clowney trade though? Just bad, imo.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Pretty much this.

    BoB created the mess that they had to overpay to fix. But they had to do something.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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  4. JayGoogle

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    I guess 10-15 is probably his rating? Still, that's good for his age and its a massive upgrade and we pretty much had to do this. We paid for our desperation basically but we had to or else we are going into this season with no LT and not even a RB (still needs to be addressed) which means teams were going to tee off on Watson.
     
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  5. J.R.

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    Tunsil is a massive upgrade and he will protect Watson better than what we had. The issue is the cost we paid.
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, pretty much this.

    Even if Tunsil turns out to be the franchise LT we need the organization can't continue to fill holes this way.

    If only we had gotten a 1st round pick for Clowney then this trade looks a TON better.
     
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  8. Fantasma Negro

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    Yeah but besides corner, I'm knocking on wood here but, there aren't many holes to fill on this team
     
  9. tmacfor35

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    Well we got Howard and Tunsil which I would rather have then Dillard who isn’t a sure thing.
     
  10. J.R.

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    https://www.pff.com/news/pro-breaking-texans-spend-big-in-trade-for-dolphins-laremy-tunsil

    Tunsil, the No. 13 overall selection in the 2016 NFL Draft, ranks 21st among the 87 tackles with 400-plus pass-blocking snaps over the past two seasons in pass-blocking grade (79.8). In his three years in the NFL, Tunsil has yet to earn a single-season pass-blocking grade below 74.5.

    Where Tunsil struggles is the run game. The 6-foot-5, 315-pounder ranks 50th in run-blocking grade (53.8) among the 64 NFL offensive tackles with 400-plus run-blocking snaps over the past two seasons. He’s also yet to earn a single-season run-blocking grade above 62.3 in his career.

    Now entering his seventh season in the NFL, Stills is a 6-foot-1, 202-pound speedster that has yet to live up to the hype stemming from his 2014 season with the New Orleans Saints. Still earned career-high marks in receiving grade (77.7) and yards per route run (1.93) in 2014 and was traded to Miami in exchange for Dannell Ellerbe and a third-round pick the following offseason. Stills has since earned just a 66.6 receiving grade across his 2,081 routes run with Miami (2015-18), ranking 81st among the 109 wide receivers with at least 800 routes run in the four-year span. He also ranks 73rd in yards per route run (1.34) among the same group of qualifiers.

    Stills is due $9.75M in 2019 and another $8.75M in 2020, per Over the Cap, but can be released without penalty following the 2019 season. Tunsil is on the books for $3.9M this upcoming season and carries his 2020 fifth-year option with him to Houston.

    Losing Tunsil takes a Miami offensive line that entered the preseason as PFF’s lowest-ranked offensive line in the NFL to another level of bad. And the addition of Davenport is more of a problem than a solution at the position.

    Brought in as a fourth-round pick out of Bucknell in 2017, Davenport earned a dismal 50.6 overall grade across 238 offensive snaps as a rookie and a 54.9 overall grade across 1,084 offensive snaps in Year 2 of his NFL career. Among the 75 offensive tackles with 800 or more offensive snaps played over the past two seasons, Davenport ranks 69th in overall grade (53.3), 68th in pass-blocking grade (56.1) and T-60th in run-blocking grade (53.3).

    Bademosi, a Stanford product originally signed as an undrafted free agent in 2012, doesn’t offer much defensively, but he’s special teams ace. He’s played more 250 special teams snaps every year of his NFL career and has logged 56 combined special teams tackles in the process.

    Of course, Miami didn’t make this trade to win now with Davenport and Bademosi. The Dolphins’ brass has their sights set on the future, one that should (in theory) be a bit brighter if the team can acquire premier talent with its bevy of draft picks in the coming years.

     
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  11. J.R.

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  12. tmoney1101

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    I agree and that’s why I’m not going to pat bill on the back anytime soon. We had to make a move but we wouldn’t have been in such a desperate situation if we had better decision makers at the helm.

    Watson has the ability hide a bunch of these poor decisions all by himself if he’s healthy and has time to get passes off. Bill should be licking his boots because he’s going to be the reason he still has a job here for the next few years at least.
     
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  13. snowconeman22

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    If Howard becomes a plus guard then getting a pretty good tackle next to him really starts to solidify the O line .

    Our center is pretty good right ?

    3/5 lineman isn’t great , but it’s a decent starting point . If any one other lineman pans out then you’ve got 4/5 which is pretty good.

    I dunno how good tunsil actually is . And hopefully Howard plays well at guard . He definitely has the physical tools.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Yeah that is true.

    I think the Texans can get past the loss of Clowney which is why I wasn't opposed to trading him, just what we got back is a travesty. The front 7 should be fine though. Secondary...yeah...running game...yeah I don't know about that either but I can't really blame BOB for the latter, Miller's injury was just terrible luck and even though it's easy to say "Why play a RB in the preseason at all?" I have a feeling that Miller wanted to play and take a few hits as he's that kind of dude.
     
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  15. Mr.Scarface

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    Actually....Scharping will be a good player. It more like 4 of 5 linemen.
     
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  16. J.R.

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    Guess he was warning us a few days ahead of time.:rolleyes:
     
  17. No Worries

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    No, Nick Martin is not.
     
  18. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Sold your future for a first round exit.

    We’ll see how long BOB will be around
     
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  20. J.R.

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    No one wants the GM job. They want Bob O'Brien to keep the job so they can fleece him later.
     
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