Ummm...other than being black, what do these QB's have in common. Where in the world do you get the notion that either Andre Ware or Akili Smith were "running QB's?" Ware's highest rushing total for any year was 124 yards. He never had more than 20 rushing attempts in an entire season. akili smith never rushed for more than 43 attempts in a season. he had around 240 yards rushing that season. Neither Smith nor Ware were runners in college. Ware played in the freaking run and shoot. Smith was a highly efficient passer at Oregon, but not a runner. There is this notion that if a QB is black, he's a runner. It's simply not so. Neither of those "passing QB's" lasted very long. The highly effective running Cunningham played till he was nearly 40.
hey, why don't you just ask doug williams, since clearly there is only one thing the qb's you listed have in common, and its not running
I would have to put Cleo Lemon in the group. Any other black QBs? Daunte, Jeff Blake, the guy for the Raiders Vince Evans,
Man, I remember those clowns saying on 610 the Texans would be 9-7 or 10-6 that year. Specifically Chance. I also remember when the isht was hitting the fan Chance trying to save face by saying he had to make a positive prediction since the were sponsors of the team or the team were sponsors of them. It was so long ago I forgot the exact phrase. I will look for the thread though when he got called out on that. But I specifically remember during preseason the guys at 610AM all predicted the Texans to have a successful season that year. I remember them sucking in their first couple preseason games but spinning it saying it was just pre-season and they were callin Vanilla plays. From preseason you could tell we were going to suck donkey balls that year.
All I remember was Clutch posting in here....before the first game...that we'd be lucky to win 4 games that season.
Doug Williams was an exception but that was because he had a great arm and was a good decision maker. My point from my original posting was that you had to be a better passer in addition to being a good scrambler/ running QB. I did not put out those examples because of race it just so happens that all the examples were black quarterbacks.
MM, you're a card! Yes, the stats don't necessarily show running ability proficiency in the NFL but, I was asserting that my examples could make plays with their feet other than a dropback passer who largely does not scramble around. The X factor is the QB's ability to throw the ball. They also with the exception of Cunningham did not complete passes with the proficiency they did in college. As I mentioned in my original post had you bothered to read the whole thing I outlined what I consider the factors essential to being an NFL to elite NFL QB but, that's just me. No, just because an NFL quarterback is black does not mean he's a running QB but rather generally (with the exception of your Byron Leftwich types) can consistently demonstrate the ability to make plays with his feet either by running or by scrambling elongating the opportunities to complete passes downfield.
Yeah...silly me for assuming that when you said: "Ask Randall Cunningham and Akili Smith and Andre Ware how long a running QB lasts before put to waste?" that you meant that Akili Smith and Andre Ware were "running QB's." Neither of those guys "made plays" with their feet on anything remotely close to a regular basis. The Akili Smith example is glaring to me. Because I saw him play in college. And I've heard people here refer to him numerous times as a running QB...and the only reason that happens is because the guy is black.
This is the same as saying that people who criticize American foreign policy are not patriotic. It's really pathetic that you have to resort to those measures in order to get people to agree with you. How about you make compelling arguments instead of trying to make UT grads feel ashamed of themselves.
Ok, fine whatever dude! Black QB's are generally more defined muscular wise and have ABILITY generally speaking moreso than caucasian counterparts. Read into it what you want to read.
read into it???? i'm not reading into anything. i'm merely reading what you posted on its face. that andre ware, randall cunningham and akili smith are "running QB's." that's what you wrote. i guess 1 out of 3 ain't too bad. i'm not calling you a racist. i just think we make assumptions about athletes because of what they look like...whether or not that comports with reality. i don't see that happen with any one more than black QB's. you're not the first person i've read here who tried to suggest that akili smith, for example, was a running QB. but it's simply not true.
i'm guessing it "goes way back to the slave period. the slave owner would breed this big black with this big black woman so he could have a big black kid. that's where it all started..." sound about right, hatemavs4life?
Why are you bringing this up in this context? I simply bring up the notion that black QBs have typically been more muscular and have demonstrated ability to at least escape, dodge, scramble around and make plays with his legs to get first downs either running or buy time and find an open receiver to get a first down. Obviously, this is not the gospel. There are many exceptions to the rule and sometimes the best athletes (in fact a lot of times) do not necessarily yield the best results. An example of this, Andre Ware, a heisman trophy winner, had all the tools to be a success but either through a flawed offensive scheme and/or poor coaching (Wayne Fontes) and/or lack of a REAL offensive line and/or a lack of a legitimate opportunity needed to demonstrate an ability to succeed in the NFL, was largely denied the chance to become a star in the league and show off his repetoire of talent he had. I reckon your last question could be because, the physiological makeup comes from their descendants genes and traits. So yes, it's probably genetics. Happy now !?!
dude why don't you just admit you're wrong. akili smith is not a running qb, now matter how muscular black qbs are, neither is ware. now you're bodering on saying all black qbs aren't successful which is true spuditity. quit while you're ahead. eject. believe me, I've had to do it plenty of times
One thing is for sure. Akili Smith sure wasn't much of a passing QB. He completed 46.6% of his passes for his NFL career. Ouch. Maybe people who said he was a running QB were just looking for the bright side.
