Don't you know anyone that supports Pacquiao on this or any issue must be Filipino? I was told that I was Filipino because I said there was no way Cotto was going to hang with Pacqiao. Some of the Mayweather fans on here are just as big of losers as Mayweather. (please note that I said "some")
Totally. The reason I'm rooting for Pacquiao and his team because they are respectable athletes/people. I'm rooting for an underdog here who people keep on saying he will lose to this guy and that guy and he proof them all wrong. And now there this stupid steroid obstacles he needs to pass once again to get people's respect. Man, the guy just can get any respect. Man, stop with the stupid race card crap. I guessed anyone who like Yao is definitly Chinese or Asian.
This isn't about being a fan of either one of these guys. Mayweather isn't the only group to suggest Pac has roided up. Oddly enough, Pac is suggesting he'll fight the other one...because that fighter would need the fight much more than Mayweather does...even though he said outright that he thought Pac was using PED's. Honestly...we're not talking about something unprecedented here...we're talking about a vial of blood...a teaspoon..using the same testing that Olympic athletes have. We're talking about random testing that isn't scheduled..thus, it's actually random. If Pac wants to silence the critics who suggest he's using, this is a huge opportunity for him to do that...instead, he's playing right into the suspicions....and it may end up killing a fight I'd really like to see.
This stuff is funny. it's went from: 1)Freddie saying they will take any test a litttle over 2 weeks ago in an interview with ESPN 2)Manny is supersticious 3)Manny is scared of needles. 4)Manny will take the test as long as they know when it is It's funny nobody recognizes this.
Arum and company have said if Nevada demands Pac to do the random blood test, they are very willing to submit them. That right there is very telling. If he was on roids, why would he agree to take the test only if Nevada demands? Surely, he would not agree to take those state demanded test if he was on roids right? They just don't want to do it at the orders of Team Money.
Because he knows that the administrative process of approving that change in a state agency would take a bunch of time to pull off and execute. Also because he knows then they wouldn't have a choice. If he ever wants to fight in Nevada again, he'd have to do it. That's like me saying, "if Texas tells me to drive 55 miles per hour, I'll willingly submit to that rule." And for every, "if he was on roids, why would he agree if...." there's a much more compelling, "if he's not on roids, why won't he take the damn test and make his umpteen millions trying to beat the guy who would be a huge victory on his career scorecard?"
My point is why has his story constantly changed? Why does he threaten Golden Boy and the Mayweather's with defimation lawsuits, and then contact the first guy to openly call him out about steroids for an alternative fight?
The problem to me really just stems from all the inconsistancies coming from Manny's side. Like I said, Roach said a little over 2 weeks ago that they would agree to any testing. They had nothing to hide. Now, Manny was not in the states and I can't speculate on what Arum's take was then. Obviously, they speak to manny and he says no to this. Next, they state the reason Manny doesn't want to do the testing is because he is supersticious and scared of needles. The media and public jump all over this because manny has tats and piercings. Now, it's we will take the test, but we just want to know when it is. None of that adds up.
Let me reply to your points one at a time... Out of everybody, personaly I would probably listen to Freddie the most, if he says that Manny will take any test then that is what I would believe. In one article that I posted, Freddie's cut off point for blood testing is 3 days before the fight. Most atheletes are superstitious. I've stated before, boxing is as much mental as it is physical. Again I have posted in this thread the reason for this superstition, if you haven't read it, go back a few pages. This isn't the only thing that Manny is superstitious about, there is a reason that he doesn't stay in MGM even though the fight is always at MGM. He always stays at Mandalay Bay. Like most posters have stated, highly doubtful that Manny is scared of needles considering he has multiple tattoos. Again he's had blood drawn before, so I doubt this is true. This came from a second hand source from somebody from his team. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/mayweather-camp-ridicules-pacquiao-as-sledging-continues-over-tests-20091229-lith.html I've quoted this article because it gives credence, to point 2 and 3. Point 3 is higly suspect because it just suggest his camp, why can't they name the person that stated that he IS afraid of needles. I think Freddie and Manny issue is basically is more a cut-off date to the testing. They really don't care if it's random. Now what do I really think. It's all about the $$ The fight will get made folks, but this drama they're building is just trying to build up the fight. You guys forget, Floyd had a stint in the WWF, Floyd was a student of McMahon, he learned how to sell fights. Why do you think there was such a hush-hush on the negotiations? He played the bad boy image in the Marquez fight. That was the most boring fight ever, yet it had over a million PPV buys. He is playing this steriod angle to sell this fight and you know what's the kicker... Manny knows. .read the sig.
In regards to the random testing fiasco: http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-testing122309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
^^^^^^ http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-testing122309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns Everything can be picked up by urinalysis,” Arum said. “Everything.” Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, disputed Arum’s contention and said a combination of blood and urine testing is required to be effective. He also said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subject to random testing while out of competition. “To have an effective program, you have to collect blood and urine,” Tygart said. “The reason for that is that there are some things that are only detected in urine and there are some prohibited drugs that are both very lethal and potent from a performance-enhancing standpoint that are only detected in blood. One of those, for example, is human-growth hormone (HGH). There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone. It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.” Experts told Yahoo! Sports that the amount of blood the fighters would be required to give is minimal and would have no impact upon their performance.
Hypocrites? http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-25-goldenboybloodtests_N.htm So funny how things come full circle. Both these guys need to stop talking and start fighting. This is why boxing is dying. I can't imagine guys like Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Chavez, ect. demanding a blood test be done before they fight their opponents.
Some good news here. Danny Jacobs has been told to prepare to fight on the card. Danny only fights under Golden Boy's banner, and the date is Pacquaio's should the fight not materialize. They can always cancel, but it definitely is really good to hear.
Havoc. Danny is with Havoc. Everlast sponsors his gloves. You know Danny is with Dre. What's going on Vic?
