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Terrorist Attacks in Mumbai

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's not Muslims, it's the same freaking people in Afganistan. Mujahideen/Taliban/Al Qaeda whatever. These are supported by Pakistan's intelligence in an effort to destablize India and help wrest control of Jammu - Kashmir.

    Iraq was the wrong country to invade. It was Pakistan that required occupation. Had the U.S. invaded Pakistan instead of Iraq, all these freakin groups would be gone, and we probably would have bin Laden.

    Go to the source of the problem. Pakistan can't handle this problem...it's time to wipe out their intelligence and destroy the groups in northwest pakistan as well as in Kashmir.

    Or this kind of stuff will keep going. And these groups are targeting the U.S. and Europe. They won't stop until we bring the war to them. Bush's mistake was to think that war was in Iraq. Obama knows it's in Pakistan.
     
  2. ILoveTheRockets

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    Muslim extremist HATE India.
     
  3. Ari

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    To be fair these terrorists seem to be looking specifically for anti-terrorism officials and mostly westerners staying at these sites that are known to have a lot of foreigners. If anything terrorists have been consistent about targeting westerners, western interests and their collaborators anywhere and anytime, and this fits the bill. They will take it anyway they can get it, in India or even Pakistan itself or elsewhere.

    Our Bush administration made no bones about stating that the whole world is a battlefield against terrorists, and terrorists seem to be responding in kind using the whole world as their theatre
     
  4. JeopardE

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    Sadly they probably should have seen this coming. With India's rising prominence as a major economic center and their now obviously woeful level of readiness to deal with a significant terrorist attack, it makes sense for the terrorists to do this. It's obvious to them now that more than 7 years after 9/11 it is too difficult to successfully stage an attack on US soil, so their next resort is to find the weakest points of US interests abroad and target those instead. Bomb an embassy in Afghanistan, unleash shock and awe on India's largest commercial city with the aim of killing as many Americans as possible.

    Hopefully this incident forces some of these foreign countries to wake up and begin to realize that terrorism isn't just an American problem, it's now a global problem. They may still be targeting Americans but in this case it's India that's taking all the damage.
     
  5. fmullegun

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    this is seriously going to piss off india. This was a bad move on their part.
     
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    "To be fair"? As if that would make it any better, if your statement were true?

    You are confusing things - it's not like the terrorists are "responding" to something - they started this.
     
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    Fixed. :mad:
     
  8. MayoRocket

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    So they were looking for Westerners when they indiscriminately fired bullets into a crowed at a train station?

    Or maybe they were looking for them at a hospital full of women and children?
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    This is a truly terrible incident and its getting worse listening to the news reports coming in. BUT lets not rush to conclusions yet about who to blame or what their motivations are as no one had ever heard of this group the Deccan Mujahadeen until yesterday. The worst thing that could happen now is if India rushes into somesort of military confrontation with Pakistan over this only to find out later this group doesn't have any thing to do with Pakistan but is motivated by something else.

    The regional if not global nightmare situation is now that both India and Pakistan have the nuke is to have a major India and Pakistan war.
     
  10. AB

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    I don't think this is stray attack. This is a very co-ordinated attack probably supported by a well established terror organisation.
    Story so far from India is that the terrorists came in a commercial ship and got off into multiple speed boats towards their targets(From CNN ). I hope they catch some of these terrorist alive.
    Fox News seems to be getting more accurate and up to date information thru NDTV
     
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    Holy crap, the tagline on NDTV is "The Trail To Pakistan"

    This is not going to be good. If the aim of this attack is to polarize a conflict between the Western world and Asian Muslims, it may just succeed.

    The email comments running on the bottom of the screen are calling for marshal law and military intervention.
     
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    Took the words right out of my mouth
     
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    makes you wonder why didn't we concentrate all resources world wide on these terrorist groups instead of wasting billions each month in Iraq. This administration is looking worse and worse as time passes.
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/world/asia/28group.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=ig


    Christine Fair, senior political scientist and a South Asia expert at the RAND Corporation, was careful to say that the identity of the terrorists could not yet be known. But she insisted the style of the attacks and the targets in Mumbai suggested the militants were likely to be Indian Muslims and not linked to Al Qaeda or Lashkar-e-Taiba, another violent South Asian terrorist group.

    An interesting article supposing that indigenous religious and political strife could be the root of this, not necessarily international terrorism.

    It's not going to be a good week to be Muslim in India.


    Iraq is Iraq; Americans wanted to heroically depose a dictator, and expected the good will of the people to allow them to set up a new democracy that we could work with and that be a shining example of the way the New Order could look. The Iraq/terrorism angle was just an exploitable posit to garner support and was merely a coincidence of timing with 9/11; political spin.

    You guys do know that at the time of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq that Pakistan was an ally of the United States ... with 172 million people .... with a large and highly organized standing army trained by the Western Allies ... with borders facing China and Iran.... nuclear weapons ... and a death match going on within it's borders to hold off it's own radical Islamic revolution.
     
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    The Deccan Mujahadeen may be a home grown group affiliated with other India terrorists groups.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks.responsibility/index.html

    MUMBAI, India (CNN) -- A group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen has claimed responsibility for Wednesday's coordinated and deadly attacks in southern Mumbai, but security analysts know next to nothing about them.

    Analysts do not know who the Deccan Mujahideen are affiliated with, whether they are new or the offshoot of an old group.

    Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh suggested the attacks were launched by people from outside the country.

    "The well-planned and very orchestrated attacks, probably with external linkages, were intended to create a sense of panic by choosing high-profile targets and indiscriminately killing innocent foreigners," Singh said in a televised address to the nation.

    "It is evident that the group which carried out these attacks, based outside the country, had come with single-minded determination to create havoc in the financial capital of the country."

    India ranks among the countries where terrorism is most common, according to the U.S. State Department. And cross-pollination among various terror groups in south Asia makes it difficult to separate them, they say.

    Both the intelligence community in India and the United States think the Deccan Mujahideen may be affiliated with one of two organizations that have carried out attacks in India in the past: the Indian Mujahideen and Lashkar-e-Tayyiba. Watch more on who could be behind the attack »

    The Indian Mujahideen is a Muslim militant group which emerged about a year ago but has the organizational capability to carry out attacks such as those in Mumbai, said Paul Cruickshank, a fellow at the Center on Law and Security at New York University's School of Law.

    The group has declared "open war" against India in retaliation for what it said were 60 years of Muslim persecution and the country's support of U.S. policies.

    In September, the group said it was behind a series of explosions which ripped through busy marketplaces in New Delhi, killing 24 people and wounding about 100.

    The group also claimed responsibility in May for near-simultaneous bomb attacks that killed 63 people in the northwest city of Jaipur.

    Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (Army of the Pure) is an Islamic extremist group that has claimed responsibility for several attacks on Indian troops and civilians in recent years. They are suspected of being behind the string of bombs that ripped through packed Mumbai commuter trains and platforms during rush hour in July 2006. More than 200 people were killed in that attack. Watch CNN's Paula Newton on the attacks »

    In the past, Indian officials have blamed attacks within its borders on "foreign" Islamic extremist groups fighting against Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir.

    The U.S. State Department says Lashkar-e-Tayyiba has several thousand members in the Pakistan-controlled part of Kashmir and called it one of the three largest and best-trained groups fighting against India. Watch analysis on what the intentions were behind the attacks »

    Kashmir has been the source of bitter dispute and two wars between India and Pakistan. Both control parts of the region, which is predominantly Muslim.

    The Pakistani government has banned the group and froze its assets in 2002. And Pakistan's new president, Asif Ali Zardari, has made overtures for improved relations between the two countries. He condemned Wednesday's attacks.

    Officially, the Indian authorities are saying no one has claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks which killed at least 101 people, including foreigners. The Deccan Mujahideen took credit in e-mails sent to several Indian news outlets.

    Deccan refers to the Deccan Plateau that makes up the majority of the southern part of the country. 'Deccan' is an Anglicized form of 'dakkhin' which means south. Read more on the international reaction

    Mujahideen translates into 'those engaged in the struggle for Jihad.' While 'Jihad' in Islam can mean any endeavor that requires dedication, the term has taken on a militant tone in recent years.
     
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