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Terror in Moscow

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. Xopher

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    Apparently not.
     
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    Not only were they not apprehended but Russian propaganda is saying ISIS is a political tool of the US and Israel. So it was the Ukrainian Islamists backed by Israel.
     
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    Muslim extremists give no ****s… they will attack anyone and at anytime….

    They are REALLY REALLY trying to start a World War.

    Also - the USA giving Putin a heads up on the attack weeks ahead of time was a total boss move - made the third rate Putinphiles look really out of touch.
     
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    We left the post-World War era are in a pre-World War period.

    ISIS is not "more evil" than the Russian military. Islamism is not more evil than Russian Imperialism. Both are forces of destruction bent on breaking the western-led world order.

     
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    Whomever did it, and I suspect it was Islamists, we both knew and warned people that it was imminent.
     
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    Yes and no. Russian Imperialism doesn’t realistically want a world war - ISIS does, as does a number of other Islamic terrorist groups.

    Islamic extremism isn’t the first extremist group to want absolute chaos - but they are potentially the spark to send the world into a massive war.
     
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    ISIS did it. Their official account took credit for it. There were intelligence reports and there is tension between fundamental Islamists and the Russian state.

    Maybe ISIS felt that Russia was distracted and it was a good time to strike - or maybe ISIS leadership really believes they can win a religious war.
     
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    The escape vehicle. Im sure this means Macron and the French were behind it (white Renault).

    IMG_20240322_232236_002.jpg

    Apparenrly they just drove off and nobody looked twice at them. *shrug*

    Moscow has a a huge, intigrated CCTV network around the city, but apparently there just happened to be a failure of the entire system the time of the attack and so it was useless? At least that's what I'm getting second hand from questionable Russian sources.
     
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    Russia was warned, but psychopathic Putin dismissed it as blackmail.

    At least 60 killed and scores wounded in Moscow concert hall attack | Moscow concert hall attack | The Guardian

    Earlier this month, western countries led by the US had issued terror warnings and told their citizens not to join public gatherings in Russia.

    On 8 March, the embassy wrote it was “monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts, and US citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours”.

    Russian leader Vladimir Putin had called the March warnings from western embassies a “provocation”.

    “All this resembles outright blackmail and the intention to intimidate and destabilise our society,” he said earlier this month.
     
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    Just posting this here, not sure of the veracity:

     
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    Islamism is worse.
     
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    What is worse for Putinphiles than a terrorist attack in Moscow?

    A terrorist attack by Muslim extremists in Moscow…..

    What’s worse than that?

    Having your big daddy warn you of the terrorist attack weeks before hand while you sit on your thumb and don’t stop it…

    What could possibly be worse than that? Having the terrorists burn the place to the ground and drive away - in a shitty French car.

    Nothing says ineptitude like this caper… the only thing that could make it more humiliating is if Ukraine attacks and blows up another supply chain the Russian soldiers rely on…

    I guess maybe if Prigozhin emerged from the embers and lead another rebellion from his “grave” - the situation could be worse … but even then, just barely.

    It is so obvious that the invasion of Ukraine is in part a desperate attempt to distract the Russian people from realizing just how terrible their quality of life is in 2024 and how badly their infrastructure and economy has failed under Putin.
     
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    Yeah I don’t want to diminish what Russian Imperialism has done and continues to do…. But their type of bad is something we have seen before… we don’t know where radical Islam will end.
     
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    That would be interesting - if that is true, then a number of specialists in places like France and Britain were fooled.
    I’ll admit it - it would be interesting to see the reaction of Russia if the West did it.
     

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