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Terrence Williams PR Department (AKA STOP TWEETING)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dobro1229, Jan 11, 2011.

  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

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    Will that game be a win for the Rockets?

    yeah....

    -You are talking about a guy that was a reason a hall of fame coach parted ways with the Rockets.

    Go watch his Youtube highlights, then actually watch him in a live game last season.

    DO NOT WANT.
     
  2. LongTimeFan

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    He's a 1-on-1 player, certainly not a good fit for Adelman's read-and-react offense. That said, he's extremely talented and we'd be foolish to cut ties with him when his value is at its lowest.
     
  3. BDswangHTX

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    I know i'm going to take some flak for this...but I think Twill is a mini LeBron, just like Iggy is a clone of LeBron.

    Every so often T Will will do some iso shyt that'll just make your jaw drop. Too bad he's dumber than a toilet.
     
  4. clos4life

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    Exactly. Lebron at least has high bball IQ, unlike Twill. That's why one is arguably the best player in the league and the other one couldn't get playing time in a lottery team.
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    LOL!!! Well he is full of sh**!:grin:
     
  6. Deckard

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    Really? This is a pretty strong comment from the normally Caspar Milquetoast-like beat writer of the Chronicle.

    (I don't think there ever was a level of grace. He doesn't execute the offense at all, did not practice intently and was disruptive with his constant complaining in the locker room. -- Jonathan)

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=203608

    Sounds like someone to get rid of, not someone to fire a future Hall of Fame coach over whether he plays or not. The body language of the other Rockets players on the court when Williams would check in (and the ball movement would check out) said volumes. Having said that, after what happened with Adelman, nothing would surprise me now.
     
  7. Easy

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    Intelligence is a very underrated talent in the NBA.
     
  8. LongTimeFan

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    Deck, given the choice of TWill or Adelman, you pick Adelman 10 times out of 9. That said, Adelman is gone -- it's time to move forward. There's no sense in compounding our mistake of giving up a 1st rounder for him by letting him go for scraps. Perhaps the new coach can get some production out of him? Who knows, but I'm willing to at least hold on to him through next trade deadline to find out.

    True -- although I would counter that Terrence has an above-average basketball IQ (passing abilities/vision). That said, he has to mature off the court as well as on it. Still, I'm not ready to give him away -- not when we gave up a 1st in a deep draft for him.
     
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    A 'lottery protected' 1st, chances are that we're probably going to be using that pick come june of 2012.
     
  10. Petey-N-Htown

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    I'd like to see T-Will get some nice PT for the Rockets next season.
     
  11. RealRocFan47

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    The point of the matter is that everyteam need an iso player. We have one with nba talent and no trade value. That means we either hold on to him until he gains some value or until he fills his shoes. Either way he will have to play. If u look at these teams in the playoffs they are being won by iso plays down the stretch. The princeton offense will not win you close games when the players are tired and the defense is intense.

    Ricks departure was not just cause of Twill, it was more about how he handled the situation with Williams, thabeet. Patterson and the other young bucks. Morey wanted to raise the trade value of the young players by playing them. Rick was too lazy to adjust his
    Gameplan to honor that request. Leaving Morey no choice but to trade the players that did have value. Shane and brooks. Morey will be thinking tha same thing next year and that is something Rick will not do, so the departure was imminent.
     
  12. dobro1229

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    Just because his value is at its lowest does not mean the Rockets will not look to move him before the start of the season. If they cant find a taker he might get another shot at training camp, but I would be very surprised if that happens given the Rockets track record with players that cause this many issues on so many different levels.

    I would def. say his 1 on 1 skill are really good, but they are not elite. 1 on 1 skills will not equal wins in Terrence's case if you are running the entire offensive plays through him. If you doubt me the look at New Jersey's record last season.

    He's a ball-stopper, poor shooter, poor decision maker on the court, plays uninspired defense much of the time, and he's made it completely obvious that he will not change his style of play even for a future Hall of Fame coach. Which leads to the next red flag.

    Conduct. Even at 24 years old(which is a senior citizen in the NBA) Terrence has managed to have public fueds with two very well respected coaches in a short 12 month period. His ridiculous Tweets just put the icing on the cake.

    I really do hope this guy somehow works out and shapes up, but history tells many stories of guys like Terrence that come into the NBA and are lost in the shuffle just a couple seasons later.
     
  13. Shaud

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    Andre Igoudala is nowhere near close to being a clone of LeBron James just like TWill is not a mini LeBron
     
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    If he were to get his act together and listen to people who are almost 3x his age and have been in the business almost as long, he can be. I just don't think he will in time.
     
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    soiled toilet paper is at its lowest value; that isn't enough reason to keep it.

    I can see arguments for keeping him, but do we have the slot? Can we tolerate his disruptive behavior?
     
  16. BDswangHTX

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    I think you misunderstand what I mean when I say clone. By "clone", I mean he (Iggy) is physically built like LeBron. He really is. They're quite identical specimens I assure you. I've seen both play in person, and i'm sure others who have seen both will most likely agree.

    Obviously he's not a clone of LeBron's game. That's why he's iggy and LeBron is LeBron.

    While the T-will analogy was a bit more far-fetched than the iggy, I still stand by what I said. One only needs to youtube Twill to see what i'm talking about. MINI LeBrick.
     
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    Bad attitude is big problem. Suns fans hate trade for AB because of technicals, ejections, suspensions. They hope that team just admit to mistake instead of signing him to more money than worth. I do not like this T-Will’s attitude. Kyle Lowry say if you can't play for Adelman you can't play for anyone. I think this is true when naughty Ron Artest speaks so good of coach Adelman. T-Will must be on totally different level of naughty. Morey should just admit to mistake and trade away for best he can get. I laugh at selfish player who try to take ball from Goran.
     
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    Iggy's post season: 6 pts 28% fg 3 turnovers
    LeBron's post season: 25 pts 45.8% 1 turnover

    Iggy has been in the league for 7 years, and he is still not half as good as rookie LeBron. Iggy and T-will can't even hold LeBron's jock.

    Here are clones.

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  19. BDswangHTX

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    see my reply to shaud 3 or 4 posts up. thanks.
     
  20. LongTimeFan

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    True. :(

    a) I didn't mean to imply the Rockets WON'T look to move him -- just that I feel that they shouldn't. His value is about as low as it gets right now, so I'd rather give the next coach a half-season to see if he can resurrect his value. The Bulls gave up JR Smith for Howard Eisley and JR went on to turn into a valuable 6th man contributor in Denver for a few years. All I'm saying is -- let's see if the new coach can use him, and if not, let's move him.

    b) New Jersey's record last year is not good supporting evidence to the theory that Terrence's 1-on-1 skills don't equal wins. That was a terrible team, Twill or no Twill.. and Twill didn't receive consistent PT until the very end. That said, no, I do not want to rely solely on Terrence Williams to win me games. But do I think he could be a factor in us winning? Yes -- he has an elite skillset that he hasn't put all together yet.

    c) The term "ball stopper" is overrated. You hear it and you think of a negative. Guess what? Carmelo is a ball stopper.. Kobe, McGrady, LeBron, Wade, etc. The only thing that phrase implies is that when x player gets the ball, he tends to look at making a play vs. the next pass. Not a real big negative in my eyes, IMO. I agree that Terrence was uninspired last year, but he also received very little playing time, and even less valuable PT (meaning, playing when the game mattered). While I don't condone his behavior on the court, I can at least understand that it comes from the frustration of not playing.

    Let's see if he can get along with our next coach and be used in a way that helps both the Rockets and him before we ship him out for the next Howard Eisley.
     

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