Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas new contract extension

TJ's handles and shot blocking ability >>>>> Faried's. And if your primary rim protector is MIA, I'm taking a rotation of DMo/TJ/Josh over Faried plugged in for any of those guys all day long.

 

Meh, it's kind of a wash, sure Jones can dribble a bit better and comes up with more blocks but Faried has a history of being a better scorer than Jones and he's a considerably better rebounder than Jones. Either player can provide some good things but you don't want to be paying either of them 12 mil.

 

You can potentially develop skill. You can NEVER develop athleticism. We can potentially teach T-Jones to post up, to shoot, to defend. D-Mo on the other hand, will never be explosive, will never have a longer wingspan, will never jump high. Skills CAN be learned provided the player in question works hard. It all remains on whether or not D-Mo ever grows a pair and starts acting like he is a 7 footer.

 

Actually they provide similar impact but t Jones is younger. Both more impact than dmo

 

"Jones can dribble a bit better" is waaaaaaay understating his ball-handling ability. There's a reason sports media folks outside of Houston put him in the Blake Griffin conversation when it comes to big men with significantly above average handles.

I would personally balk at giving either TJ or DMo $12 mil, but I don't doubt they'll both get it (though one or both of them are likely to be getting it on someone else's roster, if so).

 

Okay, but do you really want Jones handling the ball? Personally I don't unless there's no other choice, so it really comes down to Jones being able to dribble a bit better.

I wouldn't want to give either of them 12 mil a year, so in that we agree.

 

That question is relative. Do I want TJ playing point guard or having primary ball-handling duties over Harden? Of course not. But do I trust him putting the ball on the floor over Ariza, Josh, DMo, Brewer, even Bev, etc.? Affirmative.

Give me CP3 handling the ball over Blake all day every day and twice on Sundays. That doesn't make Blake any less of an impressive ball-handler for a big, IMO.

 

Ah, that's where we differ, I don't see Jones handling the ball as any different than Smith or Ariza handling the ball and I'd certainly prefer Brewer or Bev handle the ball over Jones.

I'm okay with him handling the ball MAYBE a few times per game, but even then it's not optimal.

 

I know you don't like the guy, but come on. LOL. Ariza is a TERRIBLE ball handler. Awful.

 

I don't dislike Jones as a player, I like him in fact, I'm just not super high on him like some are. Sure Ariza is a poor ball handler for a SF, and honestly I don't want either Jones or Ariza handling the ball, but I really don't think one is significantly better than the other at it. If Jones is handling the ball it's not the worst thing in the world, but I'd MUCH rather a real ball handler have it....basically any guard, instead of any PF.

Jones is used best scoring on putbacks and in transition. There's a couple of other things he can sort of do, but that's really what he's best at. Effort points, hustle points, that sort of thing. He's not a playmaker or a guy you really want handling the ball. We can all admit that without it being "hate" or whatever.

 

Just because Jones is very effective at put backs and in transition doesn't mean that's the only thing he's good at. I'd like to see a points per possession post up stat for him because he seems very effective at the post up this season. He is also great at cutting to the rim, spacing the floor, attacking off the PnR, and can hit an occasional 3. He is our most versatile big and he spreads the floor for the starting unit beautifully.

 

You forgot facing up, driving, transition. And he's had a couple of post takes as well. Your description is better for Asik, not for someone who shoots 70% (elite level) close to the rim.

Good offensive game by DMo, but only 3 rebounds in 38 minutes.

 

This is the kind of post I'm talking about, a lot of this is just blatantly false. He's not good in the post, he doesn't space the floor (no 32% 3 point shooter does), he's not versatile at all actually in that he can only play the 4.

When I respond to posts like this it makes me sound like I'm running the guy down when all I'm really doing is giving an accurate description of his game.

 

Brewer, Ariza, and Josh Smith are all shooting around 32% from 3 and spreading the floor.

 

They haven't been doing a very good job of it which is why the Rockets offense often gets stagnant. The fact that we have only 4 guys shooting better than 34% from 3 has been a pretty big problem at times for us.

 

Well yes, you'd obviously prefer a point guard (or a de facto PG like Harden or Lebron) handling the ball over a forward. No debate there. But as for TJ/Ariza/Brewer/Josh being level where handling the ball is concerned -- I couldn't disagree more.

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Those other 3 could never. But that's the beauty of this squad to me. Virtually every guy on the roster brings something unique and distinctive -- and where one guy has a weakness, there is another who fills the gap (when everybody is healthy). I'm just about equally "high" on TJ and DMo and really don't like the thought of losing either one. Escaping the deadline with them both in tow looks like a lucky break.

 

In which season has Faried ever averaged 16 a game???

Jones is averaging that as a starter this year. Save injury, he would have started every game.
Surely nobody is moronic enough to post that Faried is better offensively. Bobbythejpotaholic. Oh dear.

 

Accurately describe why the team shoots 57% with him on the floor vs 50 with him off.
And why that is greater than any of our other bigs (anyone else on the team).

He 'spreads the floor' just fine in terms of making it easier for others on the team to score. You are just running the guy down and not giving an accurate description of his game.

 

only two players received contract extension from Morey
Yao and Harden

 

Luis Scola?