Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas new contract extension

I'm expecting Cuban to offer one of them max. #brandthemavs

 

Offer them $17M/year together and have them divide the amount between themselves however they want.

The team will most likely let one or both of them go either via trade or free agency. It's the way of the Morey. Unless you are an elite player, he'll just try to find someone cheaper to replace you as he keeps the cap flexibility to hunt for that "third star."

 

It's a pretty good one too.

 

I suspect both will not be Rockets in 12 months.

Motie has rebounding issues and Jones has maturity issues.

I am not sure Morey is going to want to spend 13-14 million dollars a year for flawed players. The one with the most upside is Jones, he is a jumper and some maturity away from being a 18/11/2 type player which is a max player.

 

Barkley was way undersized. Hakeem was even undersized. Look at their production and development and impact.

 

I think a guy that just turned 23 can be forgiven for some immaturity.

 

If Jones plays 70 games next year with even a 2-3% improvement on his jump shoot, he will make more than DMO. Jones blocks shots and rebounds at a high level, is a good athlete and can handle the ball. He has less limitations than DMO. The one exception would be in DMO showed the ability to play center, but he has struggled with that. Both are good young players, and I doubt either is a Rocket long term.

 

I expect his maturity to improve but it is a legitimate concern at this point. It hasn't destroyed his career but has slowed it. The coaches were apprehensive about counting on him for that reason and some of Jones friends are less than ideal, we dealt one of the problems already in a hope it helps Jones focus.

 

Nook, Canaan was a bad influence on TJones?

 

I'm not getting how it has slowed his career at this point. Coming off the bench for one game isn't a big deal.

His freak injuries are slowing his career more than anything, he's giving you 15/9 with a .591 TS% as a starter this season which is outstanding for a 3rd year player.

We are also more efficient offensively and defensively with him on the floor this season.

Since this thread is comparing the two, DMo is giving you 13/6 and a .545 TS% as a starter this season, and we are marginally better offensively and worse defensively with him on the floor this season.

At this point I'd say that Jones has been more effective this season and will most likely garner a larger contract, unless DMo shows some more development next season.

 

I would disagree.

Yeah but we aren't talking about Barkley or Hakeem.

Fair enough, if Jones gets that kind of a deal I hope (and would be willing to bet) it won't be with us because he's simply not worth it and his skillset and play style is fairly easily replaced.

 

I don't know who makes more. I acknowledge that 7 footers with DMos skills are rare but if TJ averages around 16PPG, 9+RPG & ~2BPG he is going to be getting a huge offer regardless of his size. That's about what TJ is averaging as a starter this season. I'm not going to commit to who I think gets more.

 

You guys are selling Jones short. Jones has potential to do 15/9/1.5blks while shooting 50-55% next year. Add the fact that Jones has improved his bulk and 1 on 1 defense, it's easy that he get's $12 million per year.

If Jones just improves a small amount, he'll get $12-15 million per year, EASY. Is he worth it? I'm not sure.

D-Mo at $9 million a year is a bargain. Yes, he's a bad rebounder and doesn't block shots. However, he does EVERYTHING ELSE well for a 7 footer. He is elite at post ups, elite at drawing charges, great at help defense, rotations, etc. His 3 point shot has been excellent. He is basically a starting type PF, who can also play a few minutes at C. He'll be a 2nd to 3rd type of rotation big.

D-Mo will get more than $10 million per year if he improves like he has in the past few years.

 

This is actually very, very reasonable IF signed this summer. However, I'm not sure if Morey is willing to sign 2 PFs that are NOT elite to a superstar contract (combined). Investing $21 million in 2 above average PFs is really not what Morey does.

I would say Morey values Terrence Jones more than D-Mo and T-Jones has a chance to become "special". I would honestly lock down T-Jones this summer and trade D-Mo to get some value back.

Capella + T-Jones would be our future in the post.

 

That's fair, he might get a "huge offer" but I doubt it would be from the Rockets, which is why I think he gets traded before the trade deadline next season. Athletic PF's who are effort players are pretty awesome to have but it's smarter to just pick up the next one rather than to pay one.

Jones getting 12-15 mil a year would be complete insanity, I'm not going to say it absolutely won't happen, but I'd hate to be a fan of the team that does. 15 mil a year is Kevin Love money, top 3 PF money. Sure the cap is going up and so are salaries, but in no universe is Jones worth 15 mil a year. With the cap going up and more money able to be spend I could see 8 mil a year for Jones, but any more and I hope we trade him and let someone else make that mistake.

 

NEXT OFFSEASON, extend jones, gamble on dmo. tho all dmo has to do is bulk up and he'll be a near 20/10 big. both of them look to improve their 3pt shot. im confident in both of them. contractwise..yikes

 

BobbytheGreajpotmac has a point, the 7' tall guys DO tend to get paid more than the 6'9 - 6'10 guys.

I would be surprised to see the Rockets with both these guys on the roster by the end of next season.
If Jones has the 'jump' from this season to next like he had from last season to this season, then no doubt he's getting paid, and we should keep him.
Of course, if DMo learns to play defence every game, and gets a bit stronger, then no doubt he's getting paid, and we should keep him.

Nice problem to have IMO.

 

Motiejunas being 7 feet tall is irrelevant. He doesn't pose a threat as a rim protector and a combination of below average reach and strength makes it difficult for him to be an effective rebounder -- hence, we give up 3 separate 20 rebound games in a 10 day span. He's listed at 255, but that's either wrong or just not functional for him.

DMo is a nice player, but when most people mention 7 footers getting paid more, it's for the positional versatility to play both the 4 and the 5. Jones' improved shot blocking probably makes him just as (if not more) capable of sliding to the 5, but neither of them are particularly well suited for it.

Jones is a terrific support player, capable of scoring most of his points off of put backs and drop offs, and burning defenses which sag off of him due to focus on guys like Harden and Howard. He gets lost at times defensively, but he is improved in that regard relative to last year. He's definitely gotten stronger, which is seen in his rebounding.

Motiejunas is better as an offensive focal point, capable of getting buckets on demand, but I haven't understood how he is sometimes made out to be an offensive savant - this is a team desperate for some support for Harden, and you're seeing about what you can expect -- 12-14 points and 6 boards. The comp in my mind is Mo Taylor with better man defense. That's a useful player, and would pair exceptionally well with a Tyson Chandler type of 5.

I would like to keep both, but I agree with those saying at some point one of them will be moved. On this team, I'd keep Jones.

 

Isn't TJones gonna be outta the league by next year?

Didn't somebody say that around here?

 

Both guys are really young tho,this is Dmo's first year playing this many minutes. Remember Yao his first few years...dude had too many p***y moments to count.It takes big men a while to develop.TJ is only 23 and improving rapidly!