conform . . . .agree with the majority . . be like everyone else I Love Big Brother. . . . no one should every disagree with the majority Rocket River . . . aaahhh . .i miss the good ole days when folx could have their own opinions . . .
My own opinion is that TO is an ASS. Just because a lot of people agree on something doesn't mean it's not their own opinion.
Scoop Jackson with ESPN apparently feels the Phillies made a mistake in suspending TO and said that while TO turned his back on the team, the team turned its back on the fans by suspending him. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jackson/051108 Winning ain't everything Scoop
I personally don't like T.O. the persona, but T.O. the player is fine by me. What I can't understand is this... Did this all result from "words?" It couldn't have been. I think the rumored locker room fights must have happened. I could see the severance of T.O. and the Eagles on that note. But, for mere "words?" Pathetic. If he really did something near criminal, then suspend him, cut and press charges. Otherwise, I feel like they should all kiss and make up, then cut him at the end of the season. I highly doubt that the Iggles make the playoffs anywho. p.s. - here in Dallas there are "grassy knolls" out there that suggest that Michael Irvin put T.O. up to all of this out of a desire to see the Iggles self-destruct and help the Cowboys out.. That idea is more insane than letting T.O. play again. But now, they have to stand by their announced decision, or T.O. will not learn his lesson, nor will anyone else respect Andy Ried. Bottom line: I do not think it had to come to this if it were only about differences of opinion and mere "words." There must have been another severe reason for Andy Ried to have leveled such a suspension (loss of pay) and to cut him. It seems no one involved has been much of man about it. EDIT: p.s. - Didn't Gruden do this basically to KeyShawn? Only it didn't seem quite as personal (as in no lost pay), even though it was supposedly over a personality clash. -Owens must have punched a coach or something.
Why did the pizza delivery guy leave the tip behind? TO's house is in NJ. All he ever did to hurt NJ was catch those immaculate touchdowns and be the greatest show on earth when he played against the Jets and Giants.
Agreed...I think TO is an ass, but damn, he didn't kill anyone, sell drugs or abuse his spouse...Seriously, this is a little ridiculous, even for the Eagles... Saw the interview on ESPNews...two words: Damage Control...Hell, when his agent said "I love this guy", it sounded so fake and this guy hasn't even made a dime on TO...Only when TO gets a new contract will he get paid...Sleezy agent...
The only 'severance' will be TO and his sleazy agent. I am so happy TO is being punished this way if for nothing else, look at his agent. When you hire the devil himself to do your bidding, and you listen to his 'advice' to keep harming the team all year long in hope they will capitulate and given in to your demands or else, then you deserve ALL you get and then some. I hope his agent is harmed by this, that guy is just plain 'evil', and the NFL would benefit from him not being around anymore. BTW, did you see TO's reaction immediately after some reporter asked his agent "What good have you brought him other than getting him suspended", to which the agent responded "Next question", but TO's reaction and 'wink' after that was hilarious
Funny thing is Rosenhaus was supposed to be here on campus yesterday evening for a Sports Industry seminar/expo thing. Yeah, he didn't show and 95% of the people left after they announced he wasn't quite available. Didn't really affect me; I met him a month ago when he came to my Career Deveopment class. Sure, he's an ass, but he's really good at being an ass.
Another interesting article. The author, John Czarnecki, kinda lays the blame on the Eagles organization for having not given Owens the deal which he deserved. T.O.'s a mess, but Philly asked for it T.O.'s a mess, but Philly asked for it Story Tools: Print Email XML John Czarnecki / FOXSports.com Posted: 4 hours ago The Eagles knew what they were getting into when they signed Terrell Owens. FOX Bite Videos T.O. comes clean Philadelphia Eagles receiver Terrell Owens apologizes to his team and fans after being suspended from the Eagles and will not return to Philly this season. You could even say they played a major role in the end results. Consequently, the Eagles got exactly what they deserved. A locker room divided, a quarterback upset and now a team that is one huge playmaker short of making the playoffs. How can anyone blame the Eagles? Easy. The contract they presented to Owens last year was basically structured as a two-year deal, allowing the team to escape the big $7.5 million roster-bonus in March of 2006. Honestly, it was a contract that Drew Rosenhaus never would have approved had he been T.O.'s agent. One only has to look at the contract Rosenhaus structured for another new Eagle, defensive end Jevon Kearse, to see that. Kearse received $16 million to sign; a $12 million signing bonus and a $4 million roster bonus. The T.O. drama ... VIDEO: Owens apologizes to Eagles Timeline of T.O.'s tantrums Text of T.O.'s apology McNabb's dad likens Owens' shots at QB to 'black-on-black' crime VIDEO: Where will T.O. go now? Someone will take a chance Owens in locker-room brawl Fantasy spin: T.O. suspended There were concerns about Kearse, but they were injury related. However, the bottom line was that the Eagles were confident that Kearse would never be a locker-room headache; so they paid him the market price for his services — basically, $23.75 million for three years. Based on production, Kearse has been a little pricey by Philadelphia's standards. On the flip side, the Eagles gave Owens only $2.3 million to sign and a $6.2 million roster bonus. They will now attempt to get $1.7 million of the signing bonus back. His two-year deal was worth $12.4 million. It took Owens almost an entire season to figure out, when comparing his money to Kearse's, that he wasn't receiving the money he actually deserved for his performance level. Rosenhaus told him as much, and he had Kearse's contract to prove it. The other major thing that Kearse's contract proved was that Eagles vice-president Joe Banner could make a player-friendly deal with Rosenhaus. I'm sure this is something the agent told T.O., too, before he dropped long-time friend and former agent, David Joseph. Granted, the Eagles decided to backload Owens' contract based on his San Francisco past and the fact that no one else really wanted him. Well, the Baltimore Ravens did, but Owens fought successfully to free himself from that trade — the Eagles helped his cause there — and the rest is history. Owens didn't have any negotiating leverage, and the Eagles, who love being $10 million under the salary cap, decided not to pay him like a superstar. They took a financially cautious approach. When Owens threatened his holdout in April, the Eagles dug their heels in. The only thing they offered Rosenhaus and Owens was a stiff $9,000 daily fine for missing training camp. There was no talk of insuring his 2006 roster bonus or even advancing him some of that money into the 2005 season. Owens was stomping mad, considering he had worked so hard to return to play in last season's Super Bowl. Banner and owner Jeffrey Lurie have certain salary-cap and negotiation rules in place, and they were unwilling to break any of them in dealing with Owens. They refused to place him in a special category. Yes, that is their right. They trusted coach Andy Reid when he said he could control Owens and deal with his distractions. Reid actually wanted to try to help Owens, but in the end, he stuck by Donovan McNabb and the vast majority of his players. Believe me, some league people wouldn't have begrudged the Eagles if they had reworked T.O.'s contract. He did score 14 touchdowns in 14 games. Like one NFC salary-cap guru emailed me, "The Eagles were greedy. They had no real commitment to Owens like they made to any of their other players because the money wasn't in signing bonus form. Their hesitance to give Owens the deal he deserved illustrates that they were afraid of something exactly like this, but the irony is that the deal they wrote was so favorable to the team (that) it ensured this behavior."(I have to add a few roll eyes here ) The other issue for Owens was his jealousy of McNabb. He didn't forgive McNabb for saying the Eagles could make it to the Super Bowl and win without him last year. It never entered his mind that McNabb's words were simply coachspeak, innocuous words that any team spokesman offers when a star is injured. You think Andy Reid wanted McNabb to say, "We're finished. We don't have a prayer of winning anything without T.O."? But Owens took those words personally. Plus, he never understood why McNabb was given a free pass by the coach (and the media) when he played poorly. The bottom line is that Owens holds a grudge longer than anyone on earth. Last Friday, Owens had the opportunity to apologize to McNabb for saying the Eagles would have been unbeaten with Brett Favre, but he couldn't make himself say those words. He refused again on Saturday. He just couldn't do it, and now he's unemployed. It's doubtful that any team will give him the type of signing bonus he feels he deserves ever again. A team (how about the Broncos?) will sign him, but it will be a one-year deal. Mike Shanahan may be willing to rent Owens for a season and see how he behaves.
It was an interesting press conference. I thought T.O. finally did what he had to do all along. Suck it up a bit. He didn't come out with his side of the story which he certainly had the right to do. Whatever his side was, he kept it inside. He did well. BUT the agent was so strong willed you forgot about T.O.. He undid a lot of what T.O. tried to accomplish. He blamed the media, but the truth is they used the media for their own gain. But that strategy backfired when the media sided with the coach. The team could let him back on the field and easily forget what happened. And even laugh about it. This was not a case of irreconcilable differences based on the information we have. A fight could change that, but the truth is that fighting happens on all nfl teams. Shoot, our coaches fought one year during the game. Good ol buddy ryan. It happens. But no confirmation of that ever came out anyway. T.O. seems ready to give in. I don't think it was too little too late just yet. What he did was certainly disruptive. Don't get me wrong. But if T.O were to come back and be a perfect citizen all would be forgeot in a week. And I think his statement showed he could do just that. It seems more teams are taking stands against players . It's an interesting development. Adu, Ownens, dress codes, Artest, steroid policies, and what not. The players are getting hammered. I don't think that's a bad thing. They are afterall the employees. But in this case I think all could be forgotten if T.O. went in a happy soldier. I think Owens did make sacrifices last year, and although some of you may say that was last year, you can't just forget everything a player gave you. It helps mend the wounds one may cause. Very interesting to say the least. My own personal opinion is that a 4 game suspension or less would be enough. Let him play. Lesson learned.
PSJ, Owen's history pretty much says that he's not going to be a model citizen if allowed back. I think this whole ordeal is great for sports in general. The Eagles are saying that they don't care if TO makes them better ......they are taking a stand and saying "winning isn't everything". Hopefully, other teams follow suit when dealing with malcontents. I totally agree with that. PS - I can't believe we now have two writers blaming this on the Eagles.
