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Terence Morris

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by KeepJuaquin, May 8, 2003.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

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    GATER,

    Here is something kind of odd. When I was searching google for other sources of basketball salaries I came across the USA Today list from last season.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/stories/2001-02-salaries.htm

    It shows that Morris has a 2-year contract that that makes him a free agent this summer.

    However the same newspaper shows him as having a 3-year contract that expires next summer in 2004. Hmmm.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2002-2003-nba-salaries-western-conference.htm

    I know what clutch's bio on Terence says but has something changed since his rookie year is it possible that it was a three year deal all along?

    I find it hard to believe that two separate sources would be wrong about TMo having a 3 year contract but apparently something is not right. Perhaps clutch has some updated info or can at least verify which USA Today list is accurate; last years list or this years list.

    DaDakota,

    Do you have a different source for contract info? If you do don’t hold out on us.
     
  2. Sane

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    If Morris improves as much this offseason as he did last offseason, then he deserves consideration as the starter.

    I'd rather have him at 3 or 4 M $ than Posey at 6 or 7M $.

    Assuming he comes out of this summer having worked like crazy on his ballhandling skills, how can you deny him the starting spot?

    He does everything, and he does everything well. He keeps the ball flowing, and had the potential to be projected #1 a few years back in the draft. He's a great TEAM guy, and works well with Steve.

    I don't think we should let him go. But if I were him, I'd find a team that appreciates my skills. A team that's rebuilding, showcase my skills, then land a contract the following year.
     
  3. Stylez

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    Wow! T Mo getting some love around here. Thats good to see. I always liked T Mo (but then again I like Mo T and I don't hate Moochie si what do I know) and it was good to see his jumpers going in on a semi-regular basis this year. I don't thinh he'll ever be a top 3 scoring option for you but I know he can be a solid componet on a championship-caliber team. I'm sure we'll keep him since he's the Franchise's old college running buddy (he'll thats why we traded for his draft rights which was a pretty good move I must say).
     
  4. GATER

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    crash -

    I think I have found the basis for the confusion.

    Observe on the following link that TMO is listed as a team option for 2003-04.

    http://www.nbawire.com/nba-free-agents.html

    Perhaps this is why Bender or another source would have Morris as a 3 year contract (2 + an option year). When creating a table or listing data, does one include an option or not? It is somewhat abitrary.

    If the Rockets can have Terence Morris return for a 3rd year at less than $1m. I say "hell, yea".

    In fact, if it were possible to extend his contract to a 4th season (2004-05), his contract would provide some protection in the expansion draft. IOW (assuming Morris would/could sign for 1 more year), if he performed in 2003-04 keep him (protect him) and if he did not perform...don't protect him.
     
  5. HAYJON02

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    as long as i dont think of him as a first round pick, hes a good little depth guy. i hope he sticks around. i like him
     
  6. crash5179

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    GATER,



    That is link just adds to the confusion. Why didn't Bender or the USA Today list TMo as a player with an option year? Why does clutch and realgm have him listed as a free agent? And now you found something completely different.

    I guess time will tell but I certainly don't know what to think anymore.

    There is no question that if the Rockets can extend TMo for another year at less than 1 million a year then he is a keeper. Especially since we don't know how Boki will pan out or what we will do with Posey.

    The plot thickens.
     
  7. KeepJuaquin

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    LOL. The Rockets are like a story. Very interesting one.

    Very suspenseful..

    Anyways....during the season, they never mentioned that Morris would be a free agent.

    But they didn't say anything about my man HAWKINS either...who will be a free agent.

    Oh well.

    Just hope both Morris and Hawkins will be resigned for the minimum.

    And hopefully Posey resigns...
     
  8. Sane

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    I was just thinking how well T-Mo would do on a contender like the Lakers or Mavs. He can play the 3 for any of those teams very effectively.

    I think we should re-sign him, go with a SF rotation of :

    Posey (20)/Boki(15)/T-Mo(13)


    With Posey getting 6 more minutes at the 2-guard, and T-Mo getting 6 or 7 more minutes at PF. Steve can play the 1 or 2 as well. Now that's what I call versatility.
     
  9. ILuvEddie33

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    But what if Posey doesnt come back?
     
  10. Sane

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    It really doesn't bother me. I'm perfectly fine giving Boki and T-Mo a shot at the 3, while signing some veteran for the minimum.

    Of course, I'm assuming Rice is gone too.
     
  11. Fredterp

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    Nice to hear the positives for TRock. At $.5M this past year Terence was a bargain especially since being 3rd on the team in FG% (excluding Collier-13 games) and his per minute average stats. Good team player for the Rockets, especially since many have posted that the ball needs to be distributed better!. All year a few posters were saying that Terence was the worst shooter on the team when in fact he was 3rd in FG%. He showed good improvement over the previous year. What primarilly distorted the previous year was his 0-21 start from the field. Even the lottery picks usually take a while to get adjusted. From reading the board, the Rockets could use all the team players that they can sign. FREDTERP
     
  12. pbthunder

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    How about letting Posey play SG, TMo play SF, signing a FA backup SG for the Mid-level exception, and trading Cuttino and Griffin for a quality PF?
     
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    Tmo is young, multi-dimensional, improving and cheap.

    Rice is old, one-dimensional, declining, and way overpaid.

    You figure it out.
     
  14. basso

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    Rice will start? :D
     
  15. basso

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    i suggested much the same thing in another thread, except i would give cat a chance at backup point, and cato at the 4. let eddie sit for awhile, 'til he earns a spot in the rotation. cato backs up Yao, and MoT backs up cato.

    breaks my heart, but i just can't find a place for the moocher... ;)
     
  16. StupidMoniker

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    Reading all of these posts, I fugured I must have missed something. Did TMo suddenly become good? The answer, unfortunately, is no. He shot ~20% from downtown. That is unacceptable. He was a waste of a 1st round pick, which every other team in the league seemed to know, since he was available in the second round (not that there are no good players taken in the second round, but in this case everyone else was right.) With Yao, Steve and Cat on this team, our three needs to be able to shoot the 3pt. It isn't as if his 2 rebounds and half an assist are irreplaceable. If we can't get him for the minimum, we should cut our losses and release him. No one would trade us any kind of quality for this stiff.
     
  17. Yodels

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    TMo's game is beyond numbers... he knows how to complement 4 other players on the court.

    He also contributes to all 4 phases of the game: halfcourt offense, halfcourt defense, transition defense, and transition offense. Rice may be good for 1.5 of those, Boki perhaps 2, Pose 3...Mind you, he is not a star in any of these areas, but he's more than adequate. The other players may excel in 1 or 2 of those areas, but are deeply lacking in the other areas.
     
  18. Fredterp

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    In Stupidmoniker's post, stats are thrown up without real analysis. With "limited PT" you have to look or compare with stats per minute, not stats per game in looking at rebounds and assists. As for three points attempts TRock put up only 32 three point attempts in 81 games. To finish 3rd in team FG% (47%) is pretty good since it includes TRock's 22% from 3 point land. There were quite a few high salary players with much lower overall FG%s. At .5$M, Terence is a bargain. FREDTERP
     
    #38 Fredterp, May 15, 2003
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