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Tennessee Stand Against Democracy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Apr 6, 2023.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    This is such a transparent of both anti-demicractic authoritarianism and racism on display from Republicans. I'm super curious why more of the non-racist right wing leaning posters aren't commenting on this.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    they halted an official proceeding?

     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    2/3 of Tennesseeans(?) live in urban areas.

    lagging indicator, but here ya go: https://news.utk.edu/2016/12/08/survey-tennessee-urban-area-population-increasing/

    eta, btw, just so I can say, about 84% of Texans live in urban areas.

    https://kinder.rice.edu/urbanedge/census-redefines-urban-rural
     
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Peacefully, without advocating to hang a government official, without attacking law enforcement, and not in an effort to discount and overturn democracy.
     
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  6. Commodore

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    plenty of Jan 6 protesters who committed no violence were convicted of obstructing an official proceeding
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    They were part of a of a mob threatening to hang the VP, attempting to overturn a free and fair election, trespassing, etc. That wasn't the case in Tennessee.

    They may have broken a rule, not the law. Jan. 6th insurrectionists broke the law.
     
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    they’re gonna assassinate that brother if he gets too much support
     
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    So why were only two of them booted?
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    We know exactly why.
     
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    I was making a historical reference to apportionment.

    By the time of Baker's lawsuit, the population had shifted such that his district in Shelby County had about ten times as many residents as some of the rural districts. The votes of rural citizens were overrepresented compared to those of urban citizens. Baker's argument was that this discrepancy was causing him to fail to receive the "equal protection of the laws" required by the Fourteenth Amendment. Defendant Joe Carr was sued in his position as Secretary of State for Tennessee. Carr was not the person who set the district lines – the state legislature had done that – but was sued ex officio as the person who was ultimately responsible for the conduct of elections in the state and for the publication of district maps.

    The state of Tennessee argued that the composition of legislative districts was essentially a political question, not a judicial one, as had been held by Colegrove v. Green,[2] a plurality opinion of the Court in which Justice Felix Frankfurter declared that "Courts ought not to enter this political thicket." Frankfurter believed that relief for legislative malapportionment had to be won through the political process.[3]
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_v._Carr
     
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    And I was responding to your 2nd paragraph(?), not the first, but I understand your point
     
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    Malcolm X vibes

    feels like we’re back in the 60’s
     
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    Clearly, the state government of Tennessee hasn't advanced.
     
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    You still haven't explained why only 2 of the 3 were removed. Can you do so in your own words without using Twitter, a news article, or a meme?
     
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    They did. A censure by the House for breaking decorum was probably justified. Stripping committee assignments -- which they did -- probably not justified, but more measured at least. Expelling the members robs their districts of representation. It's too severe a reaction. Of course, Tennessee is already gerrymandered out the wazoo, so they were already half-in on robbing the people of their representation as it was. Maybe this is the day that a malignant tumor metastasized into an aggressive cancer.

    I am glad, at least, that the seats aren't supposed to be left empty and that special appointments will be made and special elections held. It seems like the two ousted men could get back in their seats, with 15 minutes of national fame in their back pockets. But, as I understand it, the Speaker has to agree to seat them if they are selected to return and its not clear he would. And the TN General Assembly only has a legislative session once a year, from roughly mid-January to the end of April. So special appointments must be made right away or those districts don't get a vote at all this year.
     
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    Did you see Justin Jones too?
     
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