We can agree on this, Sam. As Lady MacBeth said, "The truth will out." Here's to hoping ALL the truth comes out, regardless of the source.
Way to move the goal posts. May I remind you of your previous posts... When called on that, you walked it back a little... Based on your responses, you do seem to care what the Nixon administration did, but I guess you only care if you can use it to tar Obama. If someone points out that your comparisons are absurd, then all of a sudden, you "don't care." How convenient. By the way, you also seem to adhere to the convenient fiction that FOX is a news organization. That is demonstrably false. There's a difference between news and propaganda, and in this case, the difference is so wide that you don't even have to know who George Orwell is to see it.
while i find fox news to be more comical than anything they should not be excluded from any presidential events where other news media have access. glad to see all the other news media actually taking a stand
In regard to Acorn they haven't told the truth when the presented the registering of fake voters by volunteers as ACORN trying to commit or committing voter fraud. They didn't. ACORN were the ones who turned in the fake registrations, and that isn't voter fraud. In regard to Bill Ayers FOX continues to claim that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist. Bill Ayers in his own words is repentant, and he wasn't convicted of terrorism. Furthermore FOX lied or implied a much stronger connection than actually exists between Ayers and Obama.
As I admitted, responding to your observations moved me farther and farther afield. That is why I moved us back to the opening point of discussion, which is the first sign of the press closing ranks to protect their turf. The history of the Presidency is indeed interesting, but there is just too much of it to discuss in this thread. I am just trying to keep focus here.
Excluding FOX is bad move by the whitehouse. It's true they aren't really a news organization. It's also true that the Bush white house infringed far more on the freedom of the press than this little episode by the Obama white house. I'm glad that FOX will still have its reporter involved.
Here you go, again. This is off topic, but FYI history was my strong minor and I am particularly grounded in the rise of the presidential politics from Washington through Cleveland. BTW, those were presidents, not just cities. Now, please stay on topic.
were these presented on the opinion shows such as hannity, beck, o'rielly or were they flashed about on one of the actual news shows and presented as fact? if they were reported and later found to be untrue, fox should indeed make every effort to correct the story.
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I don't think this is much different than Bush who gave preferential treatment to Fox. So now it's just the opposite. When a news outlet such as Fox has producers who actively work to raise up demonstrations against the president, and employs people who have called for the overthrow of the president...I think the president has reason to exclude that news outlet. Frankly, Fox did this to themselves. If they want to be "fair and balanced" they need to stop their producers from getting involved and turning fox into a political organization. It's not just the White House who is saying Fox has crossed the boundary. Media Matters is saying the same thing. I think the POTUS isn't muzzling Fox but saying, if you are going to go that far, we are going to retaliate. Finally - a democratic administration that has some spine! I am so sick of the Republican apparatus. You guys forget that 8 years ago I was a republican, but so disgusted I have become with the tactics and lies spewed by both the Party and the news outlet, that I feel as a moderate I am actually being pushed into the democratic party. The Democrats now represent moderates more than Republicans. That's pretty fascinating. You die hard Republicans need to wake up and realize the country is in the process of shifting away and it's not good. Maybe we do need a new moderate-conservative party that lacks the extremist radicals we see like Glen Beck and his rabid followers in Basso-like posters here.
where is the Glenn Beck/Fox News auto-reply script? I see it being used in every post, but I can't seem to find that feature when I make a post.....
Yea! I finally am able to post this. Not only was it not up for a long time but I am still having a little problem getting Windows 7 installed. White House tries to bar Fox News from intervewing pay czar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlMILRyDRdM
LOL. I will agree that you folks think the President is some omnipotent character. He is a figurehead, and has always been one. You idiots think the President has King-Like powers. It's laughable, and why any of you making money in ten years will want to be on the side that gets this and cares about their taxes. (except on the local-front. I always vote democrat in H-town.) <div style='background-color:#e9e9e9; width: 425px;'><object id='A64060' quality='high' data='http://aka.zero.jibjab.com/client/zero/ClientZero_EmbedViewer.swf?templateID=203286&service=sendables.jibjab.com&partnerID=JibJab' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' wmode='transparent' height='319' width='425'><param name='wmode' value='transparent'></param><param name='movie' value='http://aka.zero.jibjab.com/client/zero/ClientZero_EmbedViewer.swf?templateID=203286&service=sendables.jibjab.com&partnerID=JibJab'></param><param name='scaleMode' value='showAll'></param><param name='quality' value='high'></param><param name='allowNetworking' value='all'></param><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='FlashVars' value='templateID=203286&service=sendables.jibjab.com&partnerID=JibJab'></param><param name='allowScriptAccess' value='always'></param></object><div style='text-align:center; width:435px; margin-top:6px;'>Try JibJab Sendables® <a href='http://sendables.jibjab.com/ecards'>eCards</a> today!</div></div>
I do not know whether Obama actually tried to exclude Fox from access to an event where the rest of the media was there or not, so I will only speak in the abstract. A President that excludes one media outlet from an event where every other media outlet is there is walking a dangerous path. It does send a message - if you do not report the way we want you to, you will not report at all. It is dangerous and has First Amendment implications. I have a hard time believing that Obama did this. I have a feeling that there is much more to this story that we do not know. I hope I am right about this.
What is he supposed to do when they constantly lie? Seriously. If I were president I would sure as hell freeze out a fake "news" organization with a long history of lying to promote one party and harm another. If Fox were a news station I would agree with you. It's not. Before somebody makes the usual false comparison, MSNBC is left-leaning for sure. But the anchors and talk show hosts don't lie. On Fox they do it all the time. Freedom of the Press is one thing. Lying on behalf of a political party and calling it news is quite another. And it should be illegal.
