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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. htown1984

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    is freakish percentage regardless if your playing street football or professional..
     
  2. Remii

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    Good point... And you don't see A.J.'s name being thrown around. How many starting QBs are in the NFL are out of Teddy's conference in comparison...??? Curious to know.

    And if strength of opponent doesn't matter... Why aren't you talking about Jimmy Garoppolo who threw for over 5000 yards and 50 TDs...??? And he's a smart kid that the coaches give full control to the offense to.
     
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    2014 NFL DRAFT SPECIAL - Who will be the #1 Pick?
    Teddy Bridgewater 4/5
    Jadeveon Clowney 2/1
    Any Other Player 5/2
     
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    Source?
     
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  6. Old Man Rock

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    You should be talking about him but not because of his stats. Because of how he plays the position. He has good size and good mechanics. He throws a pretty spiral and has a good arm release but he is not as good as Bridgewater. Still he is probably better than Murray and some other NFL prospects people are talking about.

    If you don't have the competition than there are still things you can look at but stats is the least of those or at least some stats. For instance the completion percentage for Carr is misleading because he is throwing a lot of screens. Who can't complete screens. But completion percentage on the roll is more pertinent. You're running and throwing, what difference does the competition make in that instance. Almost none, it's more difficult to throw on the run.

    Jimmy Garoppolo deserves a look because he has some skills and size and not because of his stats. After looing at him I am impressed. I think he was worthy of a later round pick. But he is not Bridgewater level. Of course competition matters but it is not everything and you forget Teddy Bridgewater played an elite Florida defense and worked them over.
     
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    YaaaaaaaY :) :)

    I love when Vegas backs up what I hope happens!!!
     
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    I think its good I do not have a clue how to read that. What is it saying? lol
     
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    I'm wondering how likely it is that the Texans take Bridgewater #1... and then draft another QB in the 3rd or 4th round. Like the Redskins did with Griffin/Cousins. Hedging their bets, so to speak. Yates and Keenum are by no means indispensable.
     
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    lol me neither
     
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    Here's a question for ya - how many AAC/Big East/CUSA quarterbacks were EVER considered for a top 3 pick?

    Just shows Teddy's potential in scouts eyes especially playing with a poor offense and still pulling amazing numbers.
     
  12. HTown_DieHard

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    Here are the current odds:

    As of right now, Bridgewater is the heavy favorite to be selected #1 overall.

    If you were to make a $2 bet on Bridgewater, Clowney, and the field... The winning payouts would be:

    $2.00 on Bridgewater @ 4/5 = $3.60
    $2.00 on Clowney @ 2/1 = $6.00
    $2.00 on the field @ 5/2 = $7.00

    As you can see.. Vegas believes Bridgewater will go #1 overall.

    :grin::grin::grin:
     
  13. Old Man Rock

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    It's saying if you bet 5 bucks that Bridgewater will be the 1st off the board on draft day and he is you win 4 bucks. If you bet 5 on Clowney you win 10 bucks. If you wheel the rest of the field meaning any other player not named Clowney r Bridgewater is the 1st off the board you win 12.50. In other words Vegas is pretty confident Bridgewater will be the first one drafted and is extremely confident it will be one of Bridgewater or Clowney. After that it's a crapshoot.

    I expect 4-5 to go down. If you want easy money bet on the Texans to draft Bridgewater. $1000 wins you $800. You can wait till after the combine but if Bridgewater comes in at anywhere close to 6'3" 220 then those odds will go down.
     
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    It's not going to sway people, really, but for people worried about the pedigree of Bridgewater as a "small conference QB", here is Rivals.com list of top "dual threat" QB candidates:

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2648

    Brett Hundley and Bridgewater are both listed as 4 star guys as #'s 2 & 6 respectively, while Mariota and Manziel are 3 star at #'s 12 and 14 respectively.

    Obviously, the specifics don't really apply anymore, but the point is that Bridgewater isn't some guy who came out of nowhere, like many of the small school guys w/ big numbers ( Jordan Lynch @ NIU for instance). He was a big time stud in HS who ended up at a smaller program through circumstance.

    I also appreciate that the guy athletically could be out there running around making plays but has chosen to turn himself into a pocket passer. It speaks to a certain degree of forsight and planning. Self control is a trait that I find very appealing in someone you are effectively anointing as your face.
     
  15. Old Man Rock

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    I don't understand why people make such a big deal about competition. No one has faced NFL competition. Even the future NFL players in college have to be developed They are not playing at NFL level now. Players come from elite programs all the time as all everything and fail at the next level. The main point is that you haven't failed up to the point you are at now... and you have some measurables that indicate you could continue to do it at the next level.

    Someone like Carr who has looked good all year yet looked bad in his bowl game is a red flag to me because in a more pressure situation with stronger competition you dropped off a notch. Even that you can overlook if you have other points of success. Other big games 2 minute drills, 3rd down conversions, all of those or indicators of handling pressure.

    Bridgewater has jumped every hurdle put in front of him. He is extraordinary under pressure, on the run , in 3rd down situations, in two minute drills. He steps up for big games and out preps his competition. That's important because in college he only has 17 hours a week to practice. In the pros he can get that done in two days. Bridgewater has continually improved and beat the toughest compettion he has faced.

    Just watch him in this game against Rutgers to get an indication of who he is and who he can become. The game before he broke his wrist and severely sprained his ankle. He was not supposed to dress but then he did but only would play if he was really needed. He was in severe pain yet refused a cortisone shot or pain killers. He was really needed and played. Watch what he does. It impressed me more than all of his other games. Not because of what he did but the fact that he could barely move and catch the ball. He showed right there that his success is not based on his athleticism. His best talent is in between his ears.

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    There is no way to be certain anyone will be successful but he is about as surefire a bet as you can get in my book. I am convinced 10 years from now, when his legs and feet aren't as quick as they once were, his skillset will be much better and he will still be improving.
     
  16. BleedRocketsRed

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    Jay Cutler as well but yeah
     
  17. JeopardE

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    Kaepernick went to Nevada (Mountain West).
    Tony Romo went to EIU (Division I-AA).
    Joe Flacco went to Delaware (Some conference I've never heard of) and has won a Super Bowl.
    Alex Smith went to Utah (Mountain West at the time).

    College is college. This is the pros. All this "level of competition" nonsense is just that -- nonsense.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    Does anybody here dispute that a QB will put up better numbers vs. weak competition than vs. quality competition?

    As an example, just look at how Teddy shat the bed against UH's quality defense. And how Winston looked so bad vs. Auburn.
     
  19. htown1984

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    do you think hes going to dominate every freaking game.. Jameis Winston had a bad game against Auburn and still manage to win the game.. Didnt Louisville win against Houston as well. .so whats the point here?
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    Tim Tebow won games. As did Vince Young.

    next.
     
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