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Teddy Bridgewater or Bust

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Dec 3, 2013.

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  1. Remii

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    Damn straight... And on draft day we will find out what O'Brien thinks... The so called draft experts are already saying there's not an elite QB in this draft... And that's true when a guy like Bortles can come out of no where and challenge for the number one pick...
     
  2. Remii

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    I was talking about Steve McNair... Not Steve Young...
     
  3. Remii

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    So you're saying Bridgewater has great mechanics...???? OK...
     
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    Yes. Do you know anything about him? His mechanics are one of his strengths. He doesn't have that long release that killed Leftwich or the broken sidearm that Carr had.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ick-teddy-bridgewater-to-enter-2014-nfl-draft
     
  5. Two Sandwiches

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    I don't understand the knock on his build, either. He's tall enough. He's taken plenty of hits, and has proven his toughness. Besides that, it's not like he will be allowed to get hit in the NFL.
     
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    Johnny Football has similar numbers to Bridgewater and he did it against much tougher competition. He also seems to have some magic.
     
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    He's also a shrimp that played in a gimmick spread offense as opposed to a pro style offense that Bridgewater played in.

    I'm not sure I'd be against Manziel, but comparing their numbers is silly. The argument for Manziel is that you buy him as a special player and you think his magic to extend plays will translate to the next level.
     
  8. Remii

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    We had Carr and Schaub so Teddy having better pocket awareness than them isn't saying much...

    And if you think Teddy Bridgewater is the same as Steve McNair _ I can't argue with you... And Big Ben wasn't drafted in the top 5...

    And I have nothing against Teddy... I just know QB is the most crap shot position to draft. I also know since 1990 around 14 QBs was taking with the #1 overall pick and only 2 of them can be or could have been considered elite and that's Payton and Vick (Cam and Luck seem to be on their way)... And of those 14 only 2 of them have rings (the Mannings) and I believe Drew Bledsoe is the only other one out of that 14 to even make it to a super bowl. My point is usually the quarterbacks who everyone says is the best isn't... And in this draft _ it's probably guys who will go later (like in most drafts) who will more than likely end up being just as good if not better than Teddy, Johnny, and Bortles IF O'Brien is the coach I think he is... Jimmy Garoppolo, Boyd, Braxton Miller, etc _ The Texans may can take one of those guys in a later round and have just as good of a quarterback...

    And the Texans need alot more than just a QB... And I don't see Teddy being the type of QB that can come in and do more with less like Luck did...

    On a side note... McNair should have been a number 1 pick but times were different for black QBs back then. And Steve Young flamed out when he first got drafted and ended up in San Fran being trained by great coaches and watching Montana.
     
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    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    It won't.
     
  10. Remii

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    Johnny lead the nation in opponent adjusted QBR playing against teams like Alabama for the past two years.. Luck, Wilson, and Kapernick did the same and all three of those guys are doing great on the next level. Did Teddy ever do that...???

    Teddy just had arguably the best game of his career against a busted up Miami. Johnny had a better game than that against Alabama as a freshman.
     
  11. Remii

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    He has an RG3 build and he's been taking hits from guys who will be working at the post office.
     
  12. Nook

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    There have been plenty of good to great quarterbacks that have come from small schools. Just off the top of my head.... Joe Flacco, Rich Gannon, Phil Simms, John Unitis, Terry Bradshaw, Ken O'Brien, Doug Williams, Steve McNair, Steve Young, Ron Jaworski, Ben Roethlisberger.

    Further, it isn't like Bridgewater was playing in JUCO.
     
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    So you say you have nothing against Teddy but post stuff like this.

    I don't care who they get, just want a QB (aren't a Teddy or Manziel homer) but don't say you don't have an agenda then proceed to tear down Teddy and prop up Manziel.
     
  14. Two Sandwiches

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    Right, but RG3 does that to himself by scrambling too much and baiting opponents into hitting him.

    And I agree that Bridgewater and McNair are totally different players. I think it's pointless to compare the two of them, to be honest. Mostly, I was just taking offense to the fact that you had said Roethlisberger is more athletic with a bigger arm. That's just something I'll disagree with.

    I think that no matter who was sitting there as the top overall quarterback, people would find faults in him that they would believe would merit him not to be taken number one. I think that comes with fandom, in general. The fear of the unknown. The franchise already made of of it's biggest decisions in a long time, and is about to make another one. Together, these two decisions will probably effect the next five years plus of our franchise. I'm uneasy about it myself.

    Now, I'm the first to admit that I'm a huge homer, but I think the O'Brien hire was absolutely the right one this team needs. I'm behind it 100%.

    I also think Bridgewater is the player we need. I feel that way because he has been asked to do more than practically any college quarterback in the last who knows how long, in terms of audibles, LOS adjustments, and decision making in general. With all of this responsibility, he has produced excellent results. He's mechanically sound. Yes, a lot more so than most college quarterbacks. He makes great decisions. He's got a great arm. He's got athletic ability. He's tough. He's smart. He's everything O'Brien is looking for, in my opinion. There's not much to knock about the kid's game. In fact, I'll say this...right up near Andrew Luck, he's about the most sound and complete quarterback that's come out of college football in easily five, if not ten years, in my opinion. I think the Aaron Rodgers comparison is perfect, and that's about where I'd put his ceiling. His floor is not very low, either.

    It's not that there are glaring reasons that he absolutely should be number one. To me, it's just that he's so good and so solid at everything he does that there's no reason not to take him number one. Especially when you need a franchise guy.

    I don't know what he will turn into, but he's exactly the guy that I'd be willing to make the face of the franchise.


    That being said, whatever decision is made, I will stick with it and be happy for it.
     
  15. Nook

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    He has very good mechanics.
    He has very good pocket awareness and poise in the pocket.
    He is very good at reading the field and the defense.
    He has far more responsibility than virtually anyone else in CFB.
    He is a student of the game.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    Definitely magical. But magic and numbers don't mean anything in the NFL. If they did, Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Timmy Chang and Charlie Rogers would be the 4 Horseman.
     
  17. Remii

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    This I know... But how many were taking with a number 1 pick...? I think Terry was....
    But that's still a very small list considering those names span over a 40 year period.
     
  18. Remii

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    Yeap... Very good pocket awareness playing against guys without NFL talent... That's wonderful... DRAFT HIM...!!!! lol...
     
  19. M.G.

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    Bridgewater has played against PLENTY of people with NFL talent. He's playing in a sub-par AQ Conference, not at a division-II school.
     
  20. Remii

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    I never said Big Ben was more athletic... I said he had size and was athletic with a cannon arm... And the only reason I brought up Steve is because he played against weak competition in college like Teddy... But Steve was a different animal _ like Big Ben...

    And I don't believe Teddy is a franchise quarterback. I do believe he's more like Geno Smith though _ who I like and think will be a good solid QB but a franchise elite QB _ we'll have to wait and see...
     
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