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Ted Kennedy Passes Away

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by halfbreed, Aug 26, 2009.

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  1. PointForward

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    Fatty Fat b*stard, you are the single most classless and idiotic attention-whoring egomaniac I have ever seen.. I don't care if you report this post and I eventually get banned for it, but I'm sure I'm not speaking only for myself here. You've shown your classlessness, lack of respect, and disregard for others' feelings throughout your time on this forum, and it's sad that you would come in to a thread honoring one of the greatest public servants in U.S history and try to spew nonsense just to get some extra attention that you crave so much.

    And as much as I think that it's really wrong calling you out because it gives you the attention you crave, this crossed the line.

    Not looking forward to a reply from you, as a matter of fact, ignore list is where you belong.

    if a track record of going into "R.I.P" threads and making insensitive comments over and over again doesn't warrant your banning, I don't know what does..
     
  2. Fatty FatBastard

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    Please find one time that I've shown pride in that.

    TIA
     
  3. PointForward

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    Can't search, but off the top of my head, you discussed an incident within the last year in which you were pulled over, and you figured the cop was a rookie because he couldn't tell you had been drinking.
     
  5. Fatty FatBastard

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    Buh bye.

    It was going to be said. I stated my feelings. The fact that some of you (sorry, no clue who you are) decide to pile on my comment is your own issue.

    BTW, is anyone getting this image when reading this tirade?

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    Teddy denied being drunk on the night of Chappaquiddick.

    He denied a lot of things.

    He was an effective politician, though. And fun to watch when he had been (allegedly) drinking. But that's a hell of an 'indiscretion', 'low point', 'black mark' or call it what you will. Too much to 'just get over' for some people.
     
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    Vehicular Manslaughter sounds about right.
     
  8. halfbreed

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    It's statements like this that frustrate me. Go through a lot of the threads over the past 8 years and you'll hear people bringing up Bush's drunk driving and cocaine use. It's ridiculous that neither side can see the hypocrisy of their position on so many of these issues and this is the very reason I've become so disillusioned with politics over the past decade.

    It is absolutely a legitimate topic of discussion. Someone died that night and some of you are playing it off because the guy happens to agree with you on political issues. It is disgusting. If this were any Republican senator I guarantee you almost each and every one of you would be taking the EXACT opposite line (this is for everyone, not just those defending Kennedy).

    Someone paying absolutely no price for being responsible for the death of another human being in a situation such as this because of name and money is something EVERYONE should be appalled at. I'm sure most of you were extremely upset when you heard about the judge's daughter who got off lightly in a similar case. YOU SHOULD BE. However, at least SHE is paying some price for it, however small it may be.

    As I said, I didn't bring it up in the original post because I didn't think it belonged in a thread like this. It's basically turned to this now, and that's why I'm posting this. I still stand by what I said before. It's sad that he's passed and I respect that he fought valiantly for what he thought was in the best interests of the country. This shouldn't excuse what he did, in my opinion.
     
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  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't harp on Bush's cocaine abuse, i harp on his idiocy

    its crap like this that frustrates me, don't lump ne in a group buddy.

    its a topic of discussion forty years later, its a one time incident, he got off, people need to deal with it. what's there to discuss, and if you read my post I said it should be mentioned.


    I wasn't living back then, Its truly not an issue to me
     
  10. mc mark

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    Nope!

    Some of us would have had the class to just not post in the thread.

    oh well
     
  11. PointForward

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    where you stating your feelings in that old thread about the dude's best friend passing away? I'm sure many people remember that..
     
  12. rcoleman15

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    Actually given the era and the people involved the charge that would be more than likely be brought in the end would be involuntary manslaughter. That is if a DA would have had the balls to go up against the Kennedys back then. Which isn't likely as the Kennedys ran Massachusetts back then to the fullest. Doing that would have meant almost instantaneous career suicide.

    It's basic definition is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought.

    That is a basic description of that incident as well as Kennendy drunkenly drove off of Dike Bridge after turning onto the wrong road resulting in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.

    Kennedy should have gone to jail for that but as was the case back then (and still today for the most part but not always anymore if the situation is egregious enough) power + money = freedom.

    If it happened today though Kennedy would more than likely be going to jail for a short period of time.
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Not out of line but I don't think its fair to Ted Kennedy's legacy that the Kopechne case is the end all and be all of it.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    a football player just got off for killing a guy, only serving 30 days, you don't need to be a kennedy in 1960's mass.
     
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    Agreed, but it is part of his legacy regardless.

    And I'm not one who gets all bent out of shape when real events are discussed at someone's passing, particularly when none of the parties involved in the discussion personally knew the man.

    It is not ok to mock someone's death, especially when someone involved in the discussion knows the deceased. Fatty's done this before, but this instance was the former case and ergo, acceptable commentary.
     
  16. mc mark

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    Yep!

    Professor Leonard Fein from Boston (of Americans for Peace Now) -- who has spent a lifetime struggling for Middle East peace -- offers this beautiful remembrance of Ted Kennedy today. He describes a small incident in Kennedy's long life but one that tells us a lot about the man.

    "On the morning of the day before the funeral of Yitzhak Rabin, Senator Ted Kennedy called the White House to inquire if it was appropriate to bring to the burial some earth from Arlington National Cemetery. The answer was essentially a shrug: Who knows? Unadvised, the senator carried a shopping bag onto the plane, filled with earth he had himself dug the afternoon before from the graves of his two murdered brothers. And at Mount Herzl in Jerusalem, after waiting for the crowd and the cameras to disperse, he dropped to his hands and knees, and gently placed that earth on the grave of the murdered prime minister.

    No spin, no photo op; a man unreasonably familiar with bidding farewell to slain heroes, a man in mourning, quietly making tangible a miserable connection."
     
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    I don't think anyone is saying we pretend it never happened. Everyone acknowledges this is part of Ted Kennedy's history but its not the only part of his history.

    No one is saying they aren't appalled by what happened and no one is trying to excuse what Ted Kennedy did. That said it did happen 40 years ago and Ted Kennedy has done a lot since then. Chappaquidic is something he will always be remembered for but its not the only thing.
     
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    It was a statement about more soup for me. It was in poor taste, and I was taken off the board for it. That one was understandable.

    But public celebrities and politicians? Not typically going to cause a sorrowful reaction from me, now or otherwise, and y'all need to quit rehashing what was obviously an inappropriate comment that I've learned from.

    Next.
     
  19. halfbreed

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    He was also suspended by the NFL for a year. Not that it compares to the loss of life but he's at least getting some form of punishment. Also, like it or not, Stallworth will FOREVER be remembered by that incident. When people think of Ray Lewis, one of the first things they'll remember is his involvement in that murder case.
     
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    A Judge, a DA, and a Grand Jury considered that but did not indict. He plead guilty to a charge that could have seen him serve jail time, but the sentence was commuted by the Judge who said he he "has already been, and will continue to be punished far beyond anything this court can impose". You can't check yourself into jail.

    I have no sympathy for the actions he took that led to the accident, but if the reports of a concussion are true, one can understand his actions post-accident.

    Here's a Boston Globe story...

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/02/17/chapter_3_chappaquiddick/
     

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