Every team plays on the road and deals with crowd noise and audibles. You're the only one with the nerve to use that as an excuse for giving up 42 points. UT's defense sucked and it had nothing to do with crowd noise. That same crowd noise didn't seem to bother UT's offense too much. Simms had one of his best games of the season. Keep grasping buddy.
OU just played that same prolific offense and gave up 8 points needing a trick play just to get that. It must have been that dastardly crowd noise.
Yes, and most teams play worse on the road. This isn't grasping to give UT an excuse, it's a fact of life. Whether you agree or disagree with the reasons, teams usually play worse on the road than they do at home. If I'm the only one who thinks home field played a large role in us losing to Tech, then there are some sad, pathetic Texas fans. Tech gets all the credit in the world, but I want you to consider this fact from the last five years: Texas-TT last two meetings in Austin: UT in blowouts Texas-TT last three meetings in Lubbock: two Tech wins, one close UT win Do you seriously think it's just some weird coincidence that Tech always has a better football team when the games are in Lubbock, or is it possible that Lubbock is a tough place to play? I mean, Texas' defense was iffy last year too (see Colorado and Washington games), why couldn't Kliff get more than 7 points? And yes, Texas was bothered by the noise. If not for the noise, Texas would not have had to waste its three timeouts because they couldn't hear the play. And if they had their timeouts, they probably get the ball back one more time with a couple of minutes left.
Again, Tech at home: 50 ppg, 6-1 record Tech on the road: 30 ppg, 2-4 record It's not the only reason-- OU did have a lot more success getting blitzers to Kingsbury-- but if you think Tech doesn't put a few more points on the board in Lubbock, you're nuts.
OU lost to A&M on the road, and UT lost to Tech on the road...both equal in my book. The difference is that OU beat UT....OU is better. Case closed. DaDakota
Nothing would make me happier in this world!!! Im going to get housed tonight to comfort the fact that Tech got their asses handed to them on a platter tonight. Cheers everyone, and dont beat a dead horse here......
You know I told you last year that UT was a straw house and they backed me up. It's shocking to see you tell me the UT defense last year was iffy after all the posting you did to talk about how great they were. UT's defense right now even after the Tech game gives up 15.6 points/game which is 8th in the nation. The 8th ranked defense in the country couldn't even hold Tech to it's average! KState is #2 in the nation in scoring at 46 points/game and UT held them to 14 points AT KState. Clearly the bottom line is that the UT defense played extremely poorly and there are no excuses, especially when the UT offense was able to control the ball enough to keep the time of possession about even.
What does that matter? Should I pull what KState and Nebraska average at home? UT can't hold Tech to 40 points on the road and you're making up excuses for them? The #3 team in the nation needs The Cat to explain crowd noise and how home teams play better at home. Woweee...
I think you're arguing a different point. I'm not saying our defense didn't play poorly-- there are no excuses for that, including homefield. However, looking back at the recent history of this series (games played at Austin and Lubbock) and looking at Tech's history on the road vs. home, I think it's foolish to say that homefield wouldn't have made at least a four point difference. Our defense sucked regardless, and they deserve the criticism they're getting. But, if the game isn't in Lubbock, we probably find a way to win in spite of them. It's not making an excuse, it's a fact of life, especially in this series. Home field is a factor. It's not going to completely change things, but to think it doesn't mean at least four points is a little ridiculous.
I don't care if Texas held 50 home opponents under their average, it still doesn't change the fact that stopping Tech's offense in Lubbock is more difficult than stopping them in Austin, Norman, etc.
What the heck is the point of this whining? Does this mean that if the OK State game weren't in Austin that they would have lost that game instead of won by 2? I'm sure home field could make more than a 2 point difference.
Perhaps Texas comes out more focused if the game is in Stillwater... this really isn't applicable for Tech, since they probably played their best game of the season. It's not whining, it's ****ing common sense. With Tech's statistics on the road vs. at home, it's obviously not a fair comparison to judge a team's performance against Tech in Lubbock versus a performance against them at home. I've still yet to hear one logical reason to refute this.
What the hell does that matter? Are we back to magical Lubbock again? It's as difficult to hold ANY team to it's average on the road but it only matters here because UT lost. Great...
Look back at the first page of this thread; that's why it matters. It doesn't matter for the team-- I'm just saying this in response to the people who say Texas should be ashamed because of how Tech got handled tonight. Comparing OU's defense versus Tech in Norman to UT's defense versus Tech in Lubbock isn't a fair fight. It matters in every game, Timing, the reason it is being discussed here is because the thread is about UT.
Oh this is you trying to play ALL of the angles on every side. Perhaps if Texas comes out more focused if the game is in LUBBOCK. Only games in Lubbock are a 4 point swing, when OK State loses in Austin there is no 4 point swing. It's not applicable for Tech because they scorched UT and Kansas State didn't. Ooooooh alright... I love this common sense.
I love the common sense that despite the facts that Tech scores 20 ppg more at home, has a 6-1 record vs. 2-4 record, and has consistently played better there (head to head) for five years, and somehow it wasn't much of a factor in Tech winning.
<b> 2001 </b> UT 42 (At Austin) TT 7 OU 30 TT 13 (At Lubbock) <A HREF="http://texastech.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/111701aaa.html">OU - TT 2001</A> <b> 2002 </b> UT 38 TT 42 (At Lubbock) OU 60 TT 15 (At Norman) OU handled TT home and away the past two years and UT didn't. In 2001, TT scored 6 more points at home against OU than they did on the road at UT. Not a very impressive homefield advantage to me.
