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Teacher under fire for his Cheney-9/11 theory

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ChrisBosh, Jul 21, 2006.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I wonder if any Christian professors are teaching in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or...well....you get the drift.

    DD
     
  2. gwayneco

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    Not on this topic.
     
  3. Sishir Chang

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    You might find that amazing but without more information we don't know whether he does or not. I know of several professors who kept their personal views out of on topics not pertinent to the class out of their class. I even know some who were able to kept their personal views on topics pertinent out of the class. The article specifically referred to him being on a talk show expressing his views and not in class.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    Just because people do things in Iran and Saudi Arabia doesn't mean we should do it here.
     
  5. rhester

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    It's just a sensitive issue still...

    Many professors have researched and written concerning Roosevelt having prior warning of the attack on Pearl Harbor, but that kind of view wasn't allowable during or right after WWII.

    Many professors have researched and written about the Kennedy Assasination Conspiracy but nobody would have listened during the '60's.

    The whole Manhatten Project was kept secret for years and no one seemed to mind.

    There are three ways to view history-

    Random chance- Things occur by mere chance and random choice
    Conspiratorial- Things occur by design and intervention
    Plan and unrelated circumstance- Both by design and by unrelated circumstances events unfold

    If the govt. had any involvement in 9-11 it will not be allowed into the public conscience for many more years- So forget about it.
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    Free speech means you can say anything you want to.

    The caveat is....you'd better be prepared to explain yourself, and you'd better be prepared for any consequence that your exercise of free speech may produce.

    It's a two way street.
     
  7. nyquil82

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    Can anyone prove him wrong? how is his theory any less credible than anything else out there? Unless you assume that everything the government tells you is correct, since they don't have anything to gain from it....
     
  8. jo mama

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    he should not be fired for what he said, especially as it was outside a school setting. even if it was in a school setting, he shouldnt be fired for providing an alternative viewpoint. i could see a problem if he was teaching his theory as fact and going as far as to test students on it, but there are plenty of high level professors and faculty from some very credible universities who hold the same theory he does. should they all be fired too?

    brigham young physics professor steven jones says 9/11 was an inside job
    http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/AnsQJones1.pdf

    morgan reynolds - professor emeritus at texas a&m university. he also served as chief economist for department of labor durning dubya's first term. says 9/11 was an inside job.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Reynolds

    James H. Fetzer - distinguished mcknight university professor emeritus at the university of minnesota duluth and founder of 9/11 scholars for truth. says 9/11 was an inside job.
    http://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/

    david ray griffin - professor emeritus of philosophy of religion and theology, at the claremont school of theology in claremont, california. author of the new pearl harbor: disturbing questions about the bush administration and 9-11 (2004) and the 9/11 commission report: omissions and distortions, books in which he argues there is compelling evidence members of the united states government were complicit in the september 11, 2001 attacks.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ray_Griffin

    robert bowman - director of advanced space programs development for the u.s. air force during ford and carter administrations, and a former united states air force lieutenant colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a ph.d. in aeronautics and nuclear engineering. he also ran for preisdent in 2000 as a reform party candidate, giving pat buchanan a run for his money. says 9/11 was an inside job.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman

    should all these people be fired too?
     
  9. HayesStreet

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    Is this guy still employed? I mean, it kinda ruins your question if he's retired.
     
  10. jo mama

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    how does that ruin the question if he is retired? the question would only be "ruined" if he was fired from a teaching job for controversial views. but what about the other four mentioned? especially what about not only an aggie professor emeritus, but also a chief economist under bush during his 1st term saying 9/11 was an inside job? that bastion of conservatism, texas a & m didnt fire him.
     
  11. Sishir Chang

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    Under that standard you could accept that anything could be true. Area 51, Roswell, that New Coke was a government conspiracy. I don't always trust our government but at the same time I have a hard time buying most conspiracy theories out there. Yes its true the government doesn't tell us everything that doesn't mean that we should accept the argument that since the government doesn't tell us stuff that that makes a conspiracy valid.
     
  12. Sishir Chang

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    Totally agree the way you respond to free speech is with more free speech.
     
  13. HayesStreet

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    relax man. it was a joke.

    Being chief economist would hardly make you privy to a conspiracy on the scale you're suggesting. Nor do I know what being a professor at A&M has to do with it. If they propose this as fact I would have no problem firing them for being idiots (but only if they have an idiot clause in their contract - don't want to get sued you know).
     
  14. gwayneco

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    Sorry, but that's ass backwards. It isn't for anyone to disprove his theory, it's for him to prove his theory.
     
  15. rhester

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    Here's the proof. Read "Crossing the Rubicon" by Ruppert

    link
     
  16. gwayneco

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    Ugh, yeah, I'm gonna rush right out and get that. Let's get real here. This government can't keep secrets. They all end up in the New York Times or Washington Post.
     
  17. rhester

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    You need to start with "Orwell Rolls In His Grave", you underestimate power, politics, wealth and a blind loyalty in a dumbed down populace.

    link
     
  18. HayesStreet

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    It isn't proof, it's conjecture.
     
  19. Deckard

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    He doesn't underestimate anything, rhester, he simply doesn't get it.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  20. rhester

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    Should have said 'evidence' and let the jury decide.
     

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