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Teacher goes on racist rant, not realizing Zoom was on.

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  1. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    You create responsible parents between the ages of 0-10 which is the age range for the most important stage of brain development, more specifically 0-3 with proper nutrition, high quality early childhood education, access to high quality healthcare, stable parents etc.

    Poor communties that don't have access to things will naturally have higher probabalistic odds of generating "irresponsible" parents.

    So this biting of young adults needing to learn to "pick themselves up from their bootstraps" when you apply it to an entire population pool is dumb because you are ignoring basic probability and statistics along with the average range of cognative brain development that generates these "responsibility" traits. For most people, by the time they are young adults, these traits are ingrained.

    Hence why investing in children as a society is of the utmost importance for desired outcomes.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    In this instance, wasn't the mother engaged? She saw that her child was having difficulty with the material in the home schooling environment. Rather than ignoring it, she contacted the teacher asking for assistance. Sounds like in this instance she was involved and concerned with her child's education.
     
  3. foh

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    Have you seen a lot of folks honest with themselves; or willing to listen to people criticizing them? For example, have you seen a lot of Republicans admit that their recent choice of president has acted as a traitor recently?

    You also didn't address the fact that individuals that are bucking whatever stats you bring up here, they face being profiled and their livelihood effected in adverse ways. You are going to go against forefathers and say that plight of the few don't matter in the big a scheme of things?

    Hate disguised as righteousness is much easier than self-reflection/honesty and if left unchecked leads to nation being divided and declining. We have a ton of racial minorities and ethnicities, so flaming racism is the number one thing our foreign enemies go for in their disinformation campaigns. All you are doing is helping them by bringing up stats to defend hate and your solution seems impractical.

    The woman in the video was very obviously hateful, not only because she negatively stereotyped but even in her derogatory choice of words.
     
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  4. JayGoogle

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    You flat out said that black people are bad parents my dude. You're encouraging THAT discrimination because you believe it.
     
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    Don't you put that evil on me.

    I have equal amount of success of getting parents to respond.
     
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  6. JayGoogle

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    Right, no one has evidence that the mother is a bad mother other than the teacher's opinion of the mother. We don't know the full situation either way.

    Sure, it's possible that in this case the mother was ignoring the teacher, she did have a bad feeling about the teacher (that turned out to be correct lol) but to full-on say she's a terrible mother that doesn't care about the kids education nd then to use stats as your 'evidence'... I mean it's clear what pga's doing here. He's excusing and embracing her racism because he believes the teacher was in the right.
     
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    iDot.
     
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    Dude, seriously? The woman ignored calls from the school for an entire year, and their child no-showed the whole year. This woman is a totally awful parent and her children will be the victims here.

    Until we quit excusing this type of behavior, we'll never see real progress in under-developed parts of the country (typically inner cities). Accountability is so desperately needed to lift people up. That should be the goal. Lifting up kids. NOT trying to play the cancel culture gotcha-game.

    People who blame others, don't accept responsibility, and are ungrateful will never succeed in life. History bears this out well.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    This post shows a fundamental misunderstanding of human brain development.

    "Accountability" is ingrained fromages 0-10 and more specifically 0-3 with proper nutrition, access to high quality healthcare including mental, access to high quality early childhood education and access to a parents and or a community that has the resources and time to nurture.

    There is a reason why probabalistic odds of "accountable" parents are less in poor communties and no it has nothing to do with not enough normative public service announcements about "accountability". That **** doesn't just form by out of touch idiots like yourself spamming that narrative.

    There are just so many small confounding factors that poor children encounter that are a detriment to their mental health as adults. Like increased consumption of added sugar in proccesed foods and juice to children that is cheaper and easier to provide for poor hourly wage parents is linked with decreased iq as adults. That's just one small example.
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    And the truth is, you can make negative assumptions on ANY group based on stats, including white people. That's rather easy to do. It would be stupid to live your life around demographic stats. It would mean women would stay FAR FAR away from men for example...and if we legislated on it it would just outright lead to people losing rights and the stats becoming self-fulfilling.

    As I've said, there's a reason hate groups throughout history spam stats, they want people to stop judging others as individuals, as we should, and to judge them as groups...and it's easier to do for most people. People hate thinking, if someone can explain the world to them and create a pattern for them, a lot of people will accept it.
     
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  11. El_Conquistador

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    Your post, while probably well-intentioned, is very detrimental to the upward mobility of the lower class, and frankly, it's representative of a larger effort to excuse underperformance. Lowering expectations for people and making excuses for them only perpetuates their problems. Here, you go so far as blaming it on the food they eat. I mean, that's just ridiculous beyond words.

    Want to assign blame? How about a lack of fathers involved in the children's lives? 2/3rds of inner city kids don't have fathers living at home. That's a CRISIS. How about a lack of role models in these kids' lives? How about a lack of commitment to education by the parents? A lack of involvement by the parents? It's a shame how people bend over backwards to make excuses for people... tough love would be a far better approach than soothing lies... if you really did care deeply about the outcome for the kids, which I do...
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    Good job addressing symptoms as root causes. That's very productive. Lack of father's is a symptom.

    You really need to go back to grade school education and understand fundamental steps of "problem solving".

    Understand brain chemistry. Understand how a brains develops. Understand the most important stage of brain development. Understand mental health. Otherwise all you have is platitudes and public service announcements. Those things have never solved systemic socioeconomic divides. Never in human history.

    D.A.R.E is a fundamental example of your thought process executed and failing miserablely. All it was was classes telling kids "drugs are bad" and didn't reduce drug use with minors because it didn't attempt to address the underlying mental health issues that made kids resort to drug use.
     
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    Are you suggesting their brains are underdeveloped to the point where they can't make proper decisions for themselves? If so, that's the most racist thing I've ever read on this BBS.
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Do you have a link to to the story where the mother ignored calls for an entire year?

    What do you mean that the child no-showed?
     
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    You didn't listen to the call in the OP's post did you? This was the entire reason the woman went on a rant. Wow.
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I didn't say blacks are bad parents. Her parenting perpetuated the cycle of poverty. If we want to break the cycle of poverty we have to address homes. Whatever the teacher said isn't holding people back. It's just a random woman venting.

    Kids not getting an education is a problem that perpetuates poverty and it's not the schools's fault. It's lack of direction from the home
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What does equal amount of success mean?
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You're rambling about issues I really don't care about. I want poor blacks to stop the cycle of poverty. That's all. We can't keep blaming racism. This teacher of her personal feelings. She isn't the reason this kid is not going to be able to get a well paying job. His lack of education will be the real
     
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    This is based on a claim from the teacher. The mother claims that no one calls her back. You've decided, unsurprisingly, to automatically assume the racist teacher is telling the truth. Wow.
     
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  20. JayGoogle

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    Yep you did.

    A pretty generalizing statement.

    Stop lying to yourself, you don't care at all about this lol. You just want to say "Black people bad!" as much and loudly as possible.
     
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