Pinching isn't the same thing as waving or shoving a sign in someone's face. Pinching is a direct physical violation of the person. Again you continue to mistake intention with assault. What you are really arguing for is pre-crime which in that case we would have to lock up a lot more Do you have any evidence if Paul was even given the option of pressing charges by the authorities?
They can and they did. At the health care protests they did that sort of things to many politicians and were not arrested or charged.
Are you, pray tell, talking about moi? :grin: Why is my position a routine but your's (or the others') is not? Now THAT IS TELLING, isn't it? Part of The Cadre myth...
Its not really important to me regarding who tallnover is or isn't. We are having a debate on an important topic and whether he has been here before or not doesn't affect my opinion.
When and how would you know-- unless you stopped her or it just turned out that way? Isn't that the reason they apprehended her? This was not a secure place. I don't believe that there had been any security checks. Someone uninvited approaching the candidate's car can reasonably be suspected of having ill-intent, can't they? For B-Bob's pleasure: Who would have suspected Squeaky Fromm? Is that really so preposterous to be concerned about her or is it just preposterous because it's not a candidate that you support and turned out to be mis-placed concern? Ah, the beauty of hindsight.
So if I charge I guy with a hammer and am tackled before I hit him, that's not a crime? According to you that's pre-crime. You are incorrect. If intent to do physical harm can be proven then it is assault. Trying to shove a sign in someones face against their will is physical harm. I can not go around shoving items in people's face against their will. Tell me where you live and every morning I'll come wave dog poo in your face, because according to you I can put stuff in people's face against their will. I assume it is his call. He is the victim and I see no reason why it wouldn't be his call whether to press charges or not.
Please. Jerry Brown says mamograms aren't effective. Gawker prints a false sex story about O'Donnell. And you think some security guard being a little to aggressive in subduing an agitator and known criminal is gonna get you some votes. I doubt it.
nobody stomped on her. and nobody stepped on her head. she was assualted, the two men that were involved should be punished accordingly. but in case you missed it....her head was not stomped. sorry to disappoint.
A stomp (also referred to as a stamp) is a downwards strike with the heel of the foot from the stand-up position, and is usually directed at the head or body of a downed opponent. ... Please look closely at 0:34 in the video that DonnyMost posted: <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lg4eKO38nyc?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lg4eKO38nyc?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> He comes down with his heel into her head/neck area. That is the pure definition of a stomp. Did he come down at 100% power? No. But he absolutely stomped her.
Also... link for definition of stomp that I used: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:stomp&sa=X&ei=XzXLTKy_I8L-8AbptojRAQ&ved=0CBMQkAE
With all due respect... as somebody that lost 90%+ of his family in the Holocaust... I feel that it is appropriate to call somebody out on demonizing/de-humanizing a person or group of people to justify their violent behavior. This crap is already happening to hispanics and muslims in this country. Conservative radio/TV is guilty of this and it sure as hell needs to be called what it is. If you see the slogans, talking points, and even right-winged candidates (ie: Joe Miller's take on how to keep Mexicans out), then you will understand that we are not far from people lashing out in a violent manner.
Every definition of "stomp" that I looked at usually includes the modifier "heavily." This is where the event does not measure up to the sensational descriptions flying around.
