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Tea Party Violence

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocketman95, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

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    Assault can be based off intention. If I run at a guy with a knife and get tackled before I stab him, I can still go to jail for assault. So intent does matter. And if intent matters then her attempt to hide her identity matters because it speaks ill of her intent.
     
  2. rimrocker

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    Great. Let the authorities sort it out. Don't stomp somebody who's already helpless.
     
  3. giddyup

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    You didn't name me specifically but I certainly felt included in your defamation. That's why I called you an idiot and a bigot because you ascribed an unfavorable quality or characteristic to an entire group of people-- of which I'm sure you would include me as like-minded even though I've never been to a single tea party event in my life.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    I don't name call, that's why I called you an idiot

    hilarious

    classic giddy
     
  5. ChievousFTFace

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    She was trying to give him an "award" which is why her sign said "Republicorp Employee of the Month" (or something along those lines).

    There is clear cut video evidence that all she was doing was flipping the sign around. She had a hand on her the second she got up to the car. That also could have caused a very small portion of the sign to go inside the window.

    Either way, as I've stated numerous times, you don't have the right to tackle somebody at a rally. You let security/police do it. If you choose to do so, then you will have charges pressed on you.

    This is disgusting how folks here are blaming the girl for the violence against her. It's funny that she got even more than what she wanted. Her message is everywhere. If you are upset about the outcome, blame Paul's security team, police for not defusing the situation faster, and the derp derps that tackled her and stepped/stomped on her.
     
  6. giddyup

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    I said that they over-reacted... how many times? Those men were certainly reasonable in apprehending her to assure Paul's safety but they did not need to rough her up.
     
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  8. ChievousFTFace

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    No they were not reasonable. The security detail was more than enough to keep her away. They had no right to place their hands on her.
     
  9. giddyup

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    I've said umpteen times that they over-reacted but for them to step up to defend Paul is completely understandable. They do not know what she is up to or is capable of.

    For God's sake, some little nymph named "Squeaky" Fromme took several shots at Gerald Ford a couple of decades ago. Doesn't sound like a killer to me; does it to you? A well-aimed bullet would have killed him.
     
  10. giddyup

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    If that were true, how come she got up to the car. Wasn't she trying to "hand him" a mock award of some sort. That sounds like hands and arms inside the cab to me. Those were her movements and these guys prevented it.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    She wasn't handing him anything. She was showing him a sign, she never intended her arms or anything else to go inside the cab. Quit making &hit up.
     
  12. giddyup

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    I said I don't start it.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    It's understandable if your overly paranoid and think every political opponent with a sign is a physical threat.
     
  14. tallanvor

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    You do if you think they intend to do someone harm. If I saw someone in a hoodie and wig charge at a politician I would assume they mean harm. Of course none of this justifies stomping her head. I am just saying this lady should be in jail (as well as the head-stomper) and I have very little sympathy for her as a victim.
     
  15. Depressio

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    Can't we all just agree that Rand Paul needs to be punched in the face anyway?
     
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    no, just lose
     
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    I can just imagine how you treat women
     
  18. giddyup

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    Only she knew what she was doing. To avoid detention, lots of time people use a ruse.

    It's quite absurd to hold the men on the scene to the same standard of certainly that you have after watching the slow-motion video 15 times or so.

    All that being said, they should have handled this with less agression and she should have just buried the stunt.
     
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    This kind of crap is just so uncalled for, yet you specialize in it!!
     
  20. ChievousFTFace

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    Yes, because these are so obviously violent movements, the 2 "patriots" had the right to do what they did. It's not against the law to hand somebody an award or put a sign next to them.

    If you detain somebody in public, you better have a good reason for it. There might just be cameras there to show that you falsely detained somebody against their will. Their also might be cameras showing you tacklin' and curbstompin.'
     

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