On this we largely agree. In the heat of the moment, those involved cannot really conclude the level of danger. They can't/don't know that she doesn't have some weapon. She puts them in a precarious situation and I can't say that you or I wouldn't do the the same thing (without the "stomping" perhaps) were that our candidate in the vehicle. Only she knew it was a stunt in the moment of performance.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're saying it's ok for anybody to physically defend a candidate at a rally. There will be protestors at rallies. There will be protestors everywhere period. We have paid security details and police officers on the scene. They are trained to deal with situations like these and deflate the minor scuffles and uber-agressive journalists, as is the case here. We must understand that this should go with both sides of the coin. If this was a democratic rally and a pro-life group is being rowdy and approaches a candidate in an aggressive manner, the average Joe at the rally has no right to touch these people. That is assualt. As for the name calling in here, let's cool it a bit.
I need to look at the video again perhaps but these were the men that were meeting the arriving car. I don't even remember seeing any uniforms around. I don't even remember them intervening in the aftermath. Someone said something about calling the cops which implies that none were around. Perhaps protection was the job of these guys. She has confused the issue with an intentional and confrontational stunt which is subject to interpretation in an instant: to protect or not... I don't like the name-calling and I'm never one to initiate it. I certainly can (and mostly do) live without it.
He must certainly had a security detail with him both in the vehicle and on the ground. The gentleman who escorted her away from the vehicle appears to be a part of the detail. After seeing that was no threat, he returned in formation with his group. This is when derp derp #1 and derp derp #2 performed the tackle, boob grab and head stomp trifecta.
If I see someone committing assault (pushing a poster in someone's face is assault), I try to intervene. Every citizen should try to stop an assault. This is not to say that stomping on someone's head is appropriate. That was terrible. I am curious what your response would be if you saw someone trying to hid their identity(hooded sweater and wig) charging at a politician/celebrity?
Show me any case in history where pushing a sign in someone's face constituted grounds for an assault charge. TIA
Don't you remember the time that dark colored male put this sign in this girl's face and she claimed to be assaulted: Spoiler
legal definition for assault - An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. You wan't a case? Wiggles Vs Jimmy "The Boston Sign Maniac" McDonald - 1965 You can't just go around cramming things in people's faces. That's common sense. If you think otherwise, please tell me where you live so I can wake you up every morning with a good sign to the face.
You responded to my first post in this thread (#101), which had nothing to do with you and didn't call anyone names, by calling me an idiot and a bigot. No, you'd never initiate name-calling.
No its not. If that was the case then several Tea Party protesters who shoved signs in the faces of politicians during public meetings over the last year should have also been arrested.
If they did what that lady did, then yes they should be arrested. I am not familiar with any such case (I am not saying it hasn't happened).
Are you also in favor of frivolous law suits. Do you like to waste tax payers money charging people who show signs with assaults? I thought you were for not wasting tax money. If you call showing a sign to a politician or anyone assault, and think someone should be arrested for that, and hours, and paperwork, and filing and court time, and should all be wasted for that, then you are worse than any politician from any party running the country now, or running for office. So much for trying to cut back on government waste.
First off the lady never did shove a sign in Rand Paul's face but leaving that aside you are essentially saying that the aggressive, not violent, exercise of free speech rights is grounds for assault. That is kind of an odd position for someone like you what has previously defended liberty.
"show signs"? you serious? did you watch the video? She ran at his car and tried to shove it in his face. Then after being escorted away she tried to shove it in Paul's face again when he got out of the car. You can at least try to be honest.
