Tea Partiers who can't learn talking points are sent back to school

So let me get this right, you posted this article to critique the Tea Party for showing its followers that they have been blind to their own "part of choice" for teaching them that even after the election they need to be politically active to make sure politicians continue to work for the people and that losing a political battle made them more hardened?

I mean if anything this article paints them in a good light. They are going to get educated on facts and taking a real look at people they held in such high regard, such as Ronald Reagan. Looking at him honestly as opposed to mythically.

This article in fact seems to paint them in a way I wish they all really were.

 

Recognition of the grand strategy at last!

 

Hey thumbs! You let us all know when the tea party comes up with a candidate that can beat Mr Obama.

 

No need to. Much like McCain, Obama is beating himself.

 

Agreed.

 

There's a lot of discussion regarding that very topic, and I will remain interested. However, I'm winding my small role down due to health reasons. I start dialysis soon, so I want to spend my last unfettered days traveling to some historic sites I want to see and visiting old friends in remote places.

 

Sorry to hear about the health issues. Take care of yourself!

 

lol...you really think this "education" will be legitimate? i'm sure it's going to make all the tea partiers say "well gosh darn! I guess the gipper wasn't quite the infallible hero we thought he was!"

they're talking about "radicalizing" them for goodness sake

 

Oh, really?

Richard Viguerie, author of 'Conservatives Betrayed: How George W. Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause,' compares the response of Tea Partiers to healthcare legislation to anti-war protesters being beaten by the police in the 1960s.

"I saw them being beaten and I remember thinking 'that will teach you,'" he said. "But when you get beat up physically or otherwise, it radicalizes you. Those anti-war protesters redoubled their efforts and the same thing happened to members of the Tea Party movement when they lost the healthcare battle."

"Getting beat up radicalized them."

The "tea party" supporter, a person who is allegedly "educating the "tea party" members, tells them that "I saw them being beaten and I remember thinking 'that will teach you." So instead of saying, as one would hope an educated, sane person might say, that it was wrong for the police to beat up political protesters, just as it would be wrong for the police to beat up "tea party" members making political protests, this "tea party" supporter, who's supposedly telling them the "right way" to go about political protest/activism, doesn't tell them that it was wrong for the State to assault citizens making a public political statement, but rather that it "helped" that political movement, something he clearly sees as a negative in that case, and that the wrong committed wasn't beating them up, but rather taking an action that strengthened their movement. Not only that, but he astonishingly equates being beat up by the State for making a political protest with losing a political battle over an issue in Congress.

And you think that the article "in fact seems to paint them in a way I wish they all really were." Outstanding. You imply that it's fine for the police to beat up political protesters, if they are protesting something that you disagree with, but not if those protesting are "tea party" members. It that a fair assumption on my part? It looks perfectly obvious to me. Unless you are going to tell me that the "lesson" being given was for "tea party" members to go out and provoke the police in order to get beat up, as that would be a plus for the "tea party."

Bizarro World once again orbiting around D&D.

 

I think you are reading way too much into that comment.

LOL not at all. In fact, it's a pretty stupid assumption on your part. You won't find anything like that in my post. I was referring to the idea that a group of people that are politically motivated are actually going to get educated on issues and taking honest looks at people they've long supporters to see if maybe they've been blind fools all along.

Again, you read way too much into that comparison. It's silly that you made such a long post talking about police brutality when it's really irrelevant to the discussion.

 

Sorry to hear about your health issues. Will send positive thought your way. Hang in there.

 

Thanks, Rashmon and mc mark. I don't want to derail the thread -- just wanted to explain that I won't be as active in tea party politics and, hence, won't have any "insider" information and hints to impart anymore. But I am proud of my contribution to the movement, however small.

 

Deckard, put down that James Joyce story and back away slowly. :grin: I know you're making a solid point, but I am having trouble following it. Thanks.

 

Right now, Romney could beat him, easily. Granted, Romney isn't a tea party candidate. In fact, his waffling on social issues will turn them off, but he's still the most likely politician to win the Republican nomination.

But there's still hope for Obama. He must stand his ground on reversing the monumentally disastrous tax cuts, which the GOP still believe are good for America. Democrats cannot run away from this issue. They cannot allow the GOP to turn tax cuts into a political victory.

 

hilarious, obama isn't conservative enough for even the blue dog dems, let alone repubs and isn't liberal enough for the left thus everyone claims he is beating himself.

 

I really don't know what you're trying to say.

 

He's saying if you put a Teabag lunatic in a national election, Obama will look like a sane centrist.

 

He already does. I still don't understand what pgabs was trying to say. Oh well.

 

When there is no voting button to push, everyone promotes their own agenda and the more radical approaches shout down the more subtle substantive ones.

But behind the curtain, when you have to choose between only two candidates, people's fear of radicalism becomes more palpable and they will tend to gravitate to the center.