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TCU Vs Boise State

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by RocketMania1991, Dec 6, 2009.

  1. SirCharlesFan

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    Okay, I couldn't quickly find a similar statement on the Mountain West website, but here is a clear and succinct statement on the Conference USA website:

    http://conferenceusa.cstv.com/ot/about-c-usa.html

    "About Conference USA"

    # 50 teams have earned bowl bids
    # Member of the Bowl Championship Series
    # Bowl tie-ins with the AutoZone Liberty Bowl, Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl, EagleBank Bowl, R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl, Sheraton Hawai'i Bowl, St. Petersburg Bowl and Texas Bowl

    Now, what were you saying making things up?
     
  2. T Rex

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  3. SWTsig

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    congrats on missing the point
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    what a crap deal for TCU.
     
  5. Uprising

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    LOL @ the debating in this thread. I just read through every post.

    I, as a HUGE TCU fan, am pissed off too that the Horned Frogs have to play BS again. Sucks.

    We don't need a rematch, they were undefeated and defeated them last season.

    Now TCU is one hell of a team this year, and we have to play them again.

    I REALLY wanted us to play Florida. Damn Damn Damn.....

    Not really all that excited about the game now, just feels like another non BCS bowl game. Ugh.
     
  6. Uprising

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    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SWTsig again."

    You summed it up best....and quickest.
     
  7. BucMan55

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    Um, the 5 non BCS conferences that are a part of the BCS receive a very small portion of the BCS revenue. Something like 60K per school year per non-BCS school vs 1.6M per school year per BCS school. Sorry, but despite technically being given their BCS decoder rings, teams from those 5 conferences are NOT a part of the BCS in general. The disrespect from the BCS comittee proves this. You know what would really help the BCS v Non-BCS debate from the BCS POV?? Florida kickin the crap out of TCU. I mean really bad. But they dont even get the chance. Instead they get a BCS unbeaten in Cincinnati.
     
  8. Uprising

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    I didn't know SirCharlesFan was actually Ari Fleischer
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    It would be funny if TCU and Boise refused to play the game in protest.
     
  11. T Rex

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    Or decline the invitation?
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    The money is too much to pass up.

    I say go, and then when the game kicks off, just stand there and let the clock run out.
     
  14. Major

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    Summarized perfectly in that article:

    Should TCU, ranked third in the final BCS standings, have played fellow unbeaten Cincinnati or Florida, which spent 12 weeks ranked No. 1, and won handily, it could have made a case for a share of the national title in the AP poll, which isn't contractually obligated to crown the winner of the BCS Championship Game. But instead, we have a rematch of the 2008 Poinsettia Bowl, only with a much more lucrative payday -- and just like last year's Poinsettia Bowl, it offers no tangible reward, because no matter what Boise State and TCU do in that game, it will be met with, "Yes, you went undefeated and won a BCS game, but look who you played."
     
  15. HI Mana

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    This statement is absolutely true. The current system was put into place with the consent of all 11 conferences, and every conference receives a payout from the total amount of money generated by the 5 BCS bowls.

    HOWEVER, it is pretty disingenuous and asinine to think that the system is at all fair to the non-big 6 teams. You can take a look at the payouts for the past five years here:

    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/n...ionship/Football/Postseason+Football/finances

    and you begin to realize that the teams in the big six conferences, along with Notre Dame, are basically paying blood money to everyone else. The big six teams basically crafted this abomination of a system to serve themselves, and since they had a majority of the teams and conferences, pretty much forced all the other teams to sign, or to get completely shut out.

    What exactly did the weaker big six conferences do to merit being paid nearly double the Mountain West and WAC? If they both send one team, shouldn't they be compensated equally?
     
  16. Blake

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    What's especially crushing is the fact that this is one of the greatest teams in TCU history and now we'll never really know how good we were (assuming we win, which of course might not happen). The same goes for Boise

    At least the majority of our starters are returning next season
     
  17. SirCharlesFan

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    I was being kind but if you want to go that route :grin:
     
  19. HI Mana

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    Damn, beat me to it as I was gathering my unholy fury for the BCS system.

    As soon as Boise State and TCU finished their seasons undefeated, I thought this was going to happen. In fact, I personally believe that had Texas actually lost, we would have seen Cincinnati jump TCU in the polls, simply to keep out the "non-big-six" riff-raff. Certainly it would help the case of the BCS directors to have Florida stomp TCU, but that was supposed to happen when Oklahoma played Boise State, and instead it made the system look even weaker. I would think that having Florida act as a dream-crusher would have the same effect as Georgia beating up on Hawai'i; Florida's going to play a game on friendly turf with one of the best quarterbacks in recent history and arguably the best coach in the game, and up until last Saturday, was the #1 team in the country. When Georgia beat Hawai'i, they played a true home game, and had two future top 12 NFL picks in the backfield. The public's not going to remember when Goliath does the expected and squishes David; it will remember when the underdogs triumph. The BCS can't take that risk.
     
  20. T Rex

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    Because TCU is the home team, we know that they picked TCU first.

    Where they screwed up was in not picking Cincy next.

    Why didn't that happen?

    1. It would have sent Boise State to the Sugar Bowl. The cartel wasn't going to let another SEC get embarrassed by a non-AQ team.

    2. The non-AQs currently sport a 3-1 BCS bowl record, all against AQ teams. If Boise went to the Sugar, and TCU played Cincy, Iowa, Penn State, or Georgia Tech, the cartel would stand to go in the hole 1-5 against the non-AQs.

    And finally...and most IMPORTANTLY....

    3. It would have pitted #3 vs. #4, both of whom are unbeaten. This would have assured that, after the bowl games were over, there would be at least two undefeated teams and they would be #1 and #2 in the final polls. All hell would break loose at that point, because the cries for a playoff would be heard around the world. The BCS would implode, because nobody could stake a legitimate claim to the #1 spot. Think about it!

    It's really that simple. Anyone who doesn't see these three things as the main drivers of this goat screw is blind or naive.

    Could there be a component of "attendance" or "ratings"? Of course, but it surely was not enough to avoid Cincy. That game could have been hyped in SO many different ways. The ratings would have been unreal. No, friends, the reasons are crystal clear. The BCS cartel protected their own, and thought that they would be shielded because "we let two non-AQs in." They thought that in and of itself would be enough to appease everyone.

    http://www.killerfrogs.com/msgboard/index.php?showtopic=107260
     

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