Nobody is disrespecting TCU or Boise.In fact they are praising them, and giving reasons as to why they deserve to play a BCS conference team so they can truly show that non BCS schools can handle BCS conference schools People need to realize that BCS are no longer the top teams, and the contenders outside of the BCS conference are growing. Utah TCU Boise Houston the list goes on...... Those are all legit teams that appeared in the top 25 this season, and are outside of the BCS conference.
I edited my post right after I made it. I didn't read your post all the way through, and you obviously did the same thing. And if you really think that beating Boise St would give us the same credibility that beating Florida would, then you are off your rocker. And should I mention for a third time that we BEAT them last year in the Poinsettia Bowl when they were also undefeated? Could you see how an alum would be a bit bummed that you run the table, beating two ACC teams on the road and demolishing two top 15 teams, actually get a BCS At-large bid and then have to play a rematch?
Because the only way Boise or TCU was going to get to play a big-six conference team would be for one of them to play Iowa. It would have been possible for TCU to match up against Florida in the Sugar, but why deny Cinci the opportunity to play Florida?
So you're saying that a team that beats TCU would "prove nothing?" Pretty damn harsh to think of your team in such a lowly manner.
Nobody besides a minute percentage of college football could give a rats ass about TCU. The same could of been said about Boise State before that monumental upset over Oklahoma. Boise State beating TCU doesn't earn the same respect as Boise State beating Florida does.
You are being a total jackass. We are in a non-BCS conference. And despite our conference being better this year than some BCS conferences and the fact that we played two ACC teams on the road, the fact remains that we are in the Mountain West. Therefore the knock on our team this year has always been, "well, you don't play in a BCS conference so you are not as good as the Bamas, UT's, Florida's of the world. Therefore that respect for this year's team is only truly gained by playing a BCS school (Florida or Cincinnati) thus PROVING to the critics, that yes, despite being in a non-BCS conference, this team WAS as good as those schools. Are you denying that people use that argument? Didn't think so. So, can you not see where I am coming from? I KNOW we can play with Texas or Bama this season. I KNOW we can play with Florida or Cincinnati, but instead I have to settle for playing a TEAM WE BEAT LAST SEASON IN A NON-BCS BOWLGAME when they were undefeated ! It pisses me off...we got screwed This has NOTHING to do with thinking lowly of my school. The fact remains we are in a Non-BCS conference
If the argument is TCU/Boise plays in an easy conference and thus dont deserve a shot at the NC then the two teams playing each other does nothing to help either team shoot down that argument. You see it all the time, "TCU/Boise would be 7-5 in the Big XII or SEC." Well, taking out teams from those conference in a BCS bowl would go a long way to disproving that. TCU was ranked higher than Cincy before the championship games. Cincy won their game because the other team missed a PAT. Why should Cincy get a shot at the next best team rather than TCU? I look at the bowl schedule and you can move any of the teams around as you will. Florida being an at large coulda had them at any of the bowls. They coulda gone to the Fiesta against TCU/Boise. Or heck, put Cincy in the Fiesta and move TCU/Boise to the Sugar. The old bowl schedule used to be Fiesta (big 12/8), Sugar(SEC), Orange(Big East). There is enough leeway to get the best matchups. And sorry, but TCU/FLA is a much better matchup than Cincy/FLA.
Completely untrue. TCU would have been top 2 if they were one of two unbeaten teams. They had the bad luck this year to be undefeated in a year where there were 5 other unbeaten teams. Only 2 can go the title game. Heck, they might have been top 2 over Cincy if Texas missed a last second FG, if the Clemson loss didn't hurt their SOS. Scheduling a FBS opponent instead of a FCS opponent on 9/19 might have helped, too.
This game is the BCS System protecting itself, 3 of the 4 non-BCS conference schools put in BCS bowls have won (Utah twice and Boise State) This is a lose-lose for both teams, if it is a close game everyone will say Alabama or Texas would destroy either team. If this game is a blow out everyone will claim the winner still didn't play anyone.
I'm not taking the time to do so, but your post there just proved my argument. 3 top 25 teams in the conference. Not bad Thanks
Head to head against other BCS conferences? I dont know what the answer is, but that would be my guess. Take the whole conference's record against teams not in their conference. Take out 1-aa teams for good measure.
Unless possibly a non BCS conference school were to play a BCS conference school in a bowl game. That could help resolve the arguement.
He is not telling you that he thinks harshly of his team. He wanted his team to have the chance to truly bust the BCS by defeating one of their teams in a bowl game. It is not his fault that you fail to understand why it is significant.
Because Cinci-Florida is not nearly as interesting as TCU-Florida. And Cinci-GaTech or Cinci-Boise would have been a fantastic matchup.
No, I didn't prove your argument. The MWC finished 5-9 against automatic qualifying conference schools (every conference is a member of the BCS, there is no such thing as a non-BCS school outside of Army and Navy). The marquee non-conference victories for the MWC this season were a 1 point win versus a 7-5 Oklahoma team and 8-5 Clemson team. The same team that provided one of the marquee non-conference victories the conference got its fudge packed, at home, by a 6-6 Florida State team. The MWC was also a stellar 6-4 versus WAC teams. I would have no problem with TCU playing for a national championship. Just don't get carried away and act like the MWC is a powerhouse conference.
Of course not. That's the whole reason they want to play the BCS conferences - to show it on the field. Non-BCS teams are now 3-1 in BCS Bowls. They wanted the opportunity to knock off more teams and get more respect for the non-BCS schools. Every time they do that, they get more and more respect. Utah's performance last year really helped get teams like TCU and Boise into the top 6 or 7 this year. Beating up on Florida and Cinci or Iowa or whomever would just push that more, and open up more opportunities for non-BCS schools. Until then, there will be people who say there's not a single legitimate objective measurement you can produce to back that claim up. They are trying to provide you that proof, yet you don't think they should get that opportunity either.
I'm not, but are you telling me you think the Big East is better? I don't. Regardless, I NEVER stated that I felt we should play for a National Championship...I don't. Texas and Bama deserve it. I'm fine with that, and so is every other TCU alum that I know. We just wanted the chance to prove that we indeed are as good as any team in the country, and playing Florida would have done just that (if we won). Our team this season is not a product of easy scheduling (though our strength of schedule cannot be overlooked)...we are legitimately good enough to play with anyone, and beating Boise isn't going to fully prove anything. But the fact that you nitpicked one point that I made when debating with your view shows me that you just feel like arguing, and I'm done.
