"Yeah, Mo Taylor's really had a chance to show that he can play for a winner with his career involving the Clippers and the Rockets, what a loser..." Yeah it's odd that he leaves a career losing team to a team with a better tradition and suddenly the Clippers are fighting for the playoffs and the Rockets are playing "tank city". Say what you want but Mo has never been a player to improve his team or him self. Sure he can shoot and he is an above average passer for a PF, but he is still on his best nights a slightly above average PF. As for most nights he is an average PF, with good offensive skills and poor defensive/revboundind skills. Say what you want but I would much rather have a guy who plays the game hard on both end of the court, like KT, than Mo. And DaDakota you are right, I guess I should have stated a playoff team rather than a winning team. So that was my mistake.
Uh, yeah...you don't suppose the Clippers are fighting for a spot because of Elton Brand? And, this "tank city" you talk of may exist because Mo Taylor cannot provide service because he is rehabbing. Mo changes our offense with his jump-shooting. Plain and simple. He hasn't even gotten the chance to play against a zone defense yet.
Well I think the Clippers sudden surge has more to do with a few nice draft picks that built some extremely nice depth, but if you're going to use that as a reason that Mo Taylor's a loser, then I'll throw that our team is much worse this year now that Kenny Thomas is starting. Funny how we were making a run for the playoffs with Mo Taylor, but now we're "tank city" with KT starting... It's not like Kenny's a big time winner, his college years are marked with suddenly disappearing in tourney's. This rebounding issue is weak in my opinion, wow, KT has 2 more rebounds than Mo Taylor, talk about heart! Well Mo's a better shooter than KT so that should nullify the 2 rebound mark. Mo's ceiling is higher than KT's, and that's why I hope he recovers from this injury. I'm not going to say he should start next year because who knows how he is now after the injury, but just because he has 1-2 less rebounds than KT, doesn't mean he lacks heart and intensity. I also find it funny that a Charles Barkley fan would bring up Taylor's pot suspension. Yeah, Barkley's done nothing nearly as bad as getting caught with pot... Anyway, I like KT and I like Mo Taylor, and I think they should fight it out for the starting spot. The Taylor haters just irk me... You guys focus way too much on rebound averages, Taylor had a horrible start to the season last year and he faded towards the end due to his injury issue. In the middle months, he actually had a pretty solid rebound average... KT averages 1.8 more rebounds in 6 more minutes, big whoop...
The Clippers have had more high draft picks than Moochie Norris has hairs on his head....what? Now , 11 years of lottery picks later you finally think they are paying off??? Puuuulllleeeezzzzeeeee!!!!! Middle months? What the hell is that supposed to mean??? Thats like saying that Anna Kournikova plays really well in the second set.
That sums it up perfectly. He is 6'9" or 6'10", 270 (give or take a few) and he averages 5 friggin rebounds a game over 4 years....and 3 of those years were when he was the focal point of his team. Rebounding (as opposed to any other hoops stat) is probably 25% position and skill and 75% HEART...thats how guys like Barkley, Rodman, Ben Wallace, Brian Grant, dale davis, mason, etc (im sure im leaving out a host of others) get the tough rebound. They want it more than the guy next to them...PERIOD!!!!! Dont talk to me about how Mo T is out on the perimeter shooting or anything else...if he wants the ball then he should go and get the damn thing.
NJRocket- Yes, one would think adding -Corey Maggette -Quentin Richardson -Keyon Dooling -Darius Miles -Elton Brand That is FIVE lottery picks, plus an outstanding underclassman (Richardson) It was their management for being clueless, like trading McDyess for Brent Barry and Rodney Rogers, that kept them down. The counter argument of the Rockets tail spinning after losing Mo is a lot better than saying the Clippers, after 5 lotto picks, got better because they got rid of Mo, who started 69 games on a 45 win team.
I wasnt implying that the Clippers got better BECAUSE they got rid of Mo. I was simply saying that they have been terrible regardless of the # of high picks they have had...and it is obvious that EVENTUALLY they would get better if they kept drafting high.
The Clippers have always had high picks. I think their team has a problem developing the talent that gets drafted.
Analogy....And here I would have thought that a hard-working CEO of a company that produces respectable, yet not the most popular games in the world would understand that showing heart, and giving it all you got doesnt always result in tangible results. I'm sure all the lets start KT fans realize that he plays nearly an extra 7 minutes per game that Mo did last year, and his points per minute (.407) ar actually less that Mo Taylor's were (.454). KT does rebound more per minute though (.205 to .192), but Taylor isnt the greatest rebounder - who cares? Whoever starts next year, if both are healthy, neither are going to get the 35.1 mpg that KT is seeing this year. And when did KT start playing stellar, or even good low post defense. When did he become a low post player for that matter?? With Taylor starting and fully integrated into the team (final 5 or 6 eights of the season), we won games regularly. With KT starting, we suck.
You are treading on very very thin ice here pal. There are many factors in why a game sells or does not sell, most due to marketing or a lack thereof, it has nothing to do with heart or hard work, and by you bringing this to a personal level shows that you really have ZERO HARD data to back up your argument. Mo Taylor does NOT play with passion, and anyone that watches the game can see that. Does that mean he will NEVER play with passion? No, and I for one hope he develops it. I heard good things coming into training camp before he got hurt, so am willing to give him a chance. DD
Sorry if I offended you. Really, I recognize the hard work you put in and the respect you get, and probably deserve, you get from people on this board and the gaming community in general. But it goes to show my point. There are also a lot of factors that go into rebounding, not just size or wieght, and, sometimes, despite how much hard work you put in and how much heart you display, you may still suck at rebounding. Mo Taylor DOES play with passion and anyone who went to a number of games last year could see that. Do I have hard data...no. But do you...no. Your data backs around the fact taht he is this tall and weighs this much. How that translates to how hard he works on the court or how much heart he shows I have no idea (just as how hard you work or how much passion you put into it may or may not have any effect on the end sales of your games).
Jay, If Mo TRIED to rebound he could, the point is that he does not TRY to rebound at all. He is the worst rebounding power forward I have EVER seen. The reason is that he simply does not go get the ball. He has all the tools it is his CHOICE not to use them. DaDakota
