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Taxes: you get who you pay for

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. deepblue

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    I don't think the Bush Tax of 2003 is permanent, if its not, then it would expire in a couple years. That would be on top of the 4%.
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    I'm sorry, but if you share the island of Manhattan with the financial capital of the world and you still live in an impoverished, crime riddled area, then something has gone horribly wrong. Of course real estate prices have increased -- it's ADJACENT to the most expensive real estate in the nation. It's quite pathetic that it took this long, frankly. In a geography-constrained area like Manhattan, of course development will finally spill over into Harlem. It's inevitable. Does that trend say anything about those living in Harlem? Eh, maybe, maybe not.

    What a great diversion this is to the thread's topic of Rangel's tax hike. It's telling that the libs would prefer to take the discussion in this direction... reflective of their lack of substance...
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Again you don't know what you're talking about. It isn't an impoverished crime riddeled area, and has undergone huge investment and improvements. It isn't just spill over that is causing the increase. It has risen faster than other areas.

    As I said the revitalization was started by those living in Harlem.

    This is relevant since you brought up the idea of someone from Harlem's qualifications to make fiscal policy. I'm merely showing that someone from Harlem might be more qualified than others, because of Harlem's recent boom.
     
  4. danny317

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    even if it is a 10% increase, its pay now or pay way way way more down the line.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    So you're screaming about all the goodies special interests bought during the first six years of the Bush Administration?

    How many small businesses have foreign subsidiaries again?

    From the original article in this thread...

    There's also this from another article, which is why we hear the anguished cries of those who worship mammon...

    This is what the current Repub Party has become... a choice between a little bit of money from a few wealthy people or a lot of money from a bunch of the middle class is an awful choice.
     
  6. pgabriel

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    you're the idiot who brought it up.
     
  7. basso

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    when was the last time you walked down, oh, say 148th street? despite some uptick, in some areas, it's still largely an urban frontier, and i for one would not live in most of it w/ my children. others may feel differently. quality schools are still a massive problem, for one thing.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Well highschools in NY are not zoned by residence. It is a situation where students basically fill out applications and are accepted to different schools, and the ones that aren't accepted go to a variety of "catch-all" schools. Some of those schools are in nice neighborhoods like the upper west side.

    I'm not sure about 148th street. But in the past year I've been up and down Adam Clayton powell at night with no problem on two different occasions. I have friends who live in various locations in Harlem.

    I understand that there are certainly bad parts of it, that are basically wastelands, but it isn't what it used to be, nor what TJ is trying to portray it as.
     
  9. rimrocker

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    As an aside, does anyone else glance at headlines about Taxes and think for a second it's something about Texas?
     
  10. basso

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    used to do that all the time driving down the road, seeing "your highway texas at work." it never made sense...
     

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