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Tax Oil now

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Dubious, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. cml750

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    One of the few things that I have liked about Obama is that he stated he was for expanding nuclear power in his State of the Union address. As of now, I have not seen anything about anyone planning to build any nuclear power plants. I hope some companies are planning on undertaking this endeavor because it will benefit everyone. :)
     
  2. Deckard

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    You seriously believe that cutting taxes while fighting two wars and running a huge deficit "helped our economy?"
     
  3. cml750

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    Cutting taxes always helps the economy. There is no debate on that. Spending more than you take in is a bad thing no matter what administration is doing it. Our government needs to cut spending. Bush spent way too much and what Obama is spending is insane!!
     
  4. thadeus

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    Yes, there is debate on that. There has been debate on that since, at least, the 80s. There is no trickle that is tricklin' down - so, in one respect, you're sorta right - there shouldn't be any debate on it. Trickle down economics does not, and has never, worked.
     
  5. Deckard

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    What is insane, with all due respect, is what you just said. Cutting taxes while fighting a war is the act of madness. Cutting taxes while fighting two wars goes beyond madness, with those responsible deserving a place in Hell, were such a place to exist.

    "Cutting taxes always helps the economy."

    Again, with all due respect, are you even an adult?
     
  6. Shroopy2

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    How much tax are we talking about here? How much more at the pump?
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    Laffer curve
     
  8. Dubious

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    President Obama says the Gulf oil disaster "echoes 9/11" because it will change the nation's psyche for years to come, according to an interview with POLITICO, a news outlet.

    If 9/11 was the paradigm changer for unilateral warmaking this should be a game changer for the Nation's energy policy.
     
  9. glynch

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    Is it a 2009 or 2010? My wife has the 2006 one that looks a lot like the most current one. It does have a lot of road noise-- our major complaint. It is just ok on a road trip from Houston to Austin. I would hate to drive it much further. I drove a friend's rental 2010 it seemed like it has made great strides with road noise and seems more solid.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Would you support big cuts in defense spending?
     
  11. juicystream

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    Getting everything you need just within 3 miles isn't feasible to many of us. My commute to work is 25 miles. :(
     
  12. Deckard

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    It was the new model, glynch, which is supposed to have a host of improvements, as well as being larger. My wife was really impressed and she doesn't get all that impressed with things on four wheels, which isn't her thing (she didn't grow up tinkering on '56 Chevys with her cousin, drag racing on a very long deserted road near Hobby Airport, or generally have a fascination with cars as a teenager, like some of us).
     
  13. Rocketman1981

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    Gotta love the Euro technique! Once you can't tax people any more, you tax the hell out of commerce which in turn raises the costs and prices on everything to the consumers.

    This leads to less discretionary income, which leads to less re-investment, which in turn leads to less new jobs and an overall higher unemployment.

    Oil and Gas are taxed so high right now that its embedded in the price at the pump. If people saw how much was taxes everytime they fill up their gas tank they would be outraged.

    Governments love taxing business because the people just see the higher final goods prices.

    I love the failed idea of subsidizing an industry and HOPING and PRAYING one day it makes sense.

    Way to send our jobs elsewhere as if we make it harder to do in the US, other companies abroad will eat up market share.

    Subsidize the world!
     
  14. SamFisher

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    This is so mind-numbingly stupid on so many levels, you deserve the Billy Madison debate speech.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    This is so funny. Not picking on you personally, but this argument ALWAYS comes up no matter what.

    When gas and oil prices are low/stabilized, usually it's because demand is soft, so this argument is trotted out: "WHAT? We can't raise gas taxes now, the economy needs it!"

    But when demand is kicking, the economy is booming, and oil and gas prices rise, the argument is reversed, and phrased in the form of "WHAT? OIL IS $100 a barrel! A gas tax is crazy!"
     
  16. Rocketman1981

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    Nice argument. Maybe you should learn how an economy works before you cover up your insecurity by harassing others you idiot.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    I'm going to venture a guess that I've probably forgotten more - today - than you have ever known in your entire life given that you couldn't make it past your second sentence without multiple factual errors.
     
  18. Rocketman1981

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    Obviously you must be so knowledgable o internet king as a loser with 30,000 posts in 7 years.

    Why don't you stick to belittling people on internet forums and hiding in your cubicle all day.
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Mmmm yes, resorting to the good ol' "you're an internet loser!" argument....invariably posted by a loser...on the internet.

    Why don't you drop this and explain some of your post to me. For example, what does "subsidize the world" mean? - how does a gas tax in the US "subsidize the world"?

    PLease explain this to me in detail.
     
  20. Rocketman1981

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    I'll try to make it simple for you:

    As we raise costs to produce here in the US, energy companies margins shrink which forces them to sell off assets and invest more in Kazakhstan or other places.

    These are jobs, capital and re-investment capital that is going elsewhere because there is a higher cost to do business here.
     

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