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Taveras to the Marlins?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by torque, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Brando2101

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    29 isn't that old in baseball. He's not someone you have to worry about breaking down at the end of the season. You can say that Lane has had one good year and one bad one. His BA in 05 was no where near what it was now. There are a lot of reasons a team would think that this guy can turn around and belt out another 25 or even 30 home runs. Baseball is odd. Good and even great players can have off years. Not just slumps, but whole years where they under preform.
    I think the Astros made the right move in demoting him but only because we are trying to win now
     
  2. Drewdog

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    Id take Josh Johnson for Willy T, but do we really need pitching with Backe coming back??
     
  3. Hakeem's Dream

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    I don't think we need any more pitching. We need to focus on bats only. Fielding will work itself out.
     
  4. wood

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    I like this deal, thought of it myself a few days ago. We could even throw in Lane..
     
  5. WhoMikeJames

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    Sorry but i really don't care about Ensberg anymore, throw him in.
     
  6. gunn

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    There's no such thing as having too much good, young pitching.
     
  7. MadMax

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    we have a record-breaking streak of agreement in this forum. :D
     
  8. Hakeem's Dream

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    Let me stop that...Mo isn't leaving Houston.
     
  9. chuichuitrain

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    Mo should have been traded in the offseason when his stock was still high.

    Most unclutch player ever.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    The Astros would have to throw in their entire farm system to get Cabrera. Every team in the majors would like to get him and the bidding war would be fierce. We all know the Stros won't win a bidding war.
     
  11. Hakeem's Dream

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    Good Lord folks, leave Mo alone. He's in the DL, throw him a freaking bone.
     
  12. Burzmali

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    (There is no such thing as being clutch or unclutch in baseball)
     
  13. msn

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    Write this one down--I agree with you. On this issue, however, you and are I together in a rather minute minority. Unless you were kidding--which leaves me alone in a rather minute minority.
     
  14. Burzmali

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    No I'm not kidding. Facts are facts.
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    of all people, ray knight once said, "the definition of clutch is doing what you've always done when the stakes are higher." i always thought that was a great point. so simple, yet so true.

    a good player, if given a large enough sample size, will, in theory, play at a level relatively expected based on past experiences regardless of the circumstances. look at biggio. in his first 14 playoff games, he hit .130. in his next 26, he's hit .283. did he suddenly get more clutch? or simple more ABs? btw, biggio's career BA? .285 thru last year.
     
  16. MadMax

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    i meant between me and gunn.
     
  17. Major

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    You should tell that to Abreu, who's numbers consistently go up (substantially and every single year) with runners on base than without (0.50 pts in average and well over 0.100 pts on OPS for his career).
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    There are clutch *situations* within games & seasons.

    Over the course of a career, the vast majority of players' performance will even out to something approximating their career performance in those situations. There *are* a select few players who routinely perform above their norm in these situations, however. Key words being "routinely" and "select few".
     
  19. rrj_gamz

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    As much as I like Taveras, I would love a solid pitcher/hitter...
     
  20. TheFreak

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    He and Bagwell were the team leaders then, and were counted on for more, hence more pressure. Since then it's been Beltran/Berkman.
     

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