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Tanking Is NOT The Answer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaneB, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. ArtV

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    While I agree I do think with this season and all the back-to-backs they should be playing minutes in a more distributed fashion and resting some players more on the back-to-back nights. I like Scola but he should not be playing C...ever. Thabeet, win or lose needs PT. Either he builds his way up from a liablity to an asset (for Morey) or he's just out there to give some guys some rest. Either way no Scola (and only play Hill at PF but that's another thread) at C. Then give some minutes to TWill and even Flynn on the back-to-backs. Right now they are just rotting on the bench and we are not seeing in progress on our team except for Lowry and Parsons.
     
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    Agreed on that! Would have been nice to look at the team and think we could at least compete on the defensive end!
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I was more thinking we would be worse since we'd have replaced two scorers with one - making us a much worse team and we'd not only have Gasol and Lowery, but also get a high draft pick.
     
  4. bbllr3431

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    Tankings stupid. It gives fans hope that the future will be better and just gets butts in the seats. If you really want to win. You have to build to win, have a great FO, scout heavy, and have developmental pieces in place. In this league the veterans are the ones that get it done. You have to groom the right rookies and kids into those veterans and build around them correctly.

    2010- John Wall, look how terrible the Wizards looked today? If I were wall playing with those knuckleheads would make me wanna leave as soon as possible.
    2009- Blake Griffin, They weren't good last year at all and have taken the next step by getting established veterans around him with Paul, Butler, and Billups
    2008- Derrick Rose, With Del Negro not going anywhere with Thibs it was made all the better
    2007- Oden, the Trailblazers are in an awesome position now and its because they have a versatile experienced players at every position.

    I can keep giving examples but my main point is this. Tanking can get you a kid with great potential. But it only sparks the franchise briefly and gives hope not really wins. The key to getting chips and wins is by having a solid foundation and building one around who your going to stick with. This requires good coaching staff, fo, scouts, etc.Tanking imo is false hope. Everyone says the draft is a crapshoot, Well I'd rather have a winning atmosphere and a better quality of basketball to watch and hope I luck into a superstar another way via trade or FA.
     
  5. mylilpony

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    Is Paul going to the clippers if griffin is not there?

    The foundation of the bulls is rose and Noah. I don't know if thibodeau goes for his first coaching job if he doesn't have a good core to work with.

    Portland doesn't look good with their picks, but could you predict that Benjamin button wasn't going to hold up and Brandon Roy had to retire before he hit his prime?

    I think we could retool like okc. They had a 50 win playoff team before rashard left. They decided to build through the draft and look where they are now. They turned over ray Allen to a team desperate for a second star and they got a young player that they were able to flip for a center. They have a young team that is great and a contender. Almost all their key players came through the draft that they drafted themselves.

    Morey knows how to draft nba players, so we won't be like the wizards. But we won't be contenders if we don't get star players. We won't attract star players if we don't have star players.
     
  6. bbllr3431

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    To get a top pick you have to go through the lottery process which is a crapshoot and then identify talent that will translate which is also a crapshoot. If that much luck is going into identifying talent. I'd rather try to win and end up with whatever pick we end up with.

    However I wouldn't mind trying to win with the young guns :) and moving some of the replaceable vets i.e. zero sum players
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    We just need more players to be like Kyle Lowry and become stars on their own.
     
  8. HiGHurNAMEis

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    Exactly.

    ...+1
     
  9. HiGHurNAMEis

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    Have faith in your front office. They have a plan

    ...+1

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...p-close-look-at-nbas-bottom-feeding-lifestyle
     
  10. JeffB

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    To me, this is what rebuilding is about: trying to get players to step up their games like Lowry has. For that, you have to gamble time on the young guns. And if you win, you win with developing youth, not relying on 30 year old plus vets to pull out wins by the skin of your teeth.

    If you win, celebrate because some young guns stepped up. If you lose, oh well, at least the pick is more valuable. Either way you end up with a more value for development and trade.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I agree 100%. That's why we need to trade Luis and Martin. They deserve better anyway.

    Let them play for a contender, let us play our young guys and have them develop.
     
  12. ribbit

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    Don't forget Sacramento. 4th pick Evans, and 5th pick Cousins, but they still suck. They'll probably get another high pick next draft, but they'll still probably suck. And soon, one of them is going to ask to be traded (or make the management fire the coach).

    I say, win as much games as possible every season, and let Morey worry about the drafts. As said, scout heavy.
     
  13. Cohete Rojo

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    They signed Dalembert to intentionally tank. The guy is out of shape and has been a career 8-8 player. He will look great one night, then disappoint the next three (3), make 3 boneheaded plays for every great one, and will probably get in foul trouble during the thick of it.
     
  14. Red&BlackPudman

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    Ok, I'm just going to go ahead and slap you in the face for not calling Reggie Miller a superstar
     
  15. LabMouse

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    HaHa, I like this theory. I more like the theory that we would have a better chance to tank if we had Paul Gasol. Right now, the team has a very good chemistry with Dalembert, tanking is not an option, we need try to make the playoff to improve the team through the trades.

     
  16. JoeBarelyCares

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    At 8-7, we now have the same record as the World Champs.
     
  17. TEXNIFICENT

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    Yeah because the "assets to trade" method has worked so well. :rolleyes:

    This method has proven robust at achieving the 14th pick in the draft.
     
  18. RiceRockets

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    Tanking can't be the answer now because we haven't lost enough games.
     
  19. J.R.

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    Tanking isn't the answer. Winning isn't the answer. Getting the 14th pick(and drafting another F) is the answer. Rockets are in good hands. :)

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  20. jopatmc

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    Like winning the NIT.
     

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