http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykozvw6 No way this happens but its a trade possibility if we are indeed attempting to get Rondo. Ray Allen would be perfect for our system (even if I don't want him many years after his contract expires). Our defense would be obviously optimized with Rondo playing the passing lanes well.
Whats with people comparing age. Rondo 23. Aaron Brooks 24. What when they hit 24 send them to retirement? Strange argument along with people saying Rondo can get triple double every night? He had 5 last year.
what? in his first 2 years, he coudln't make a 18ft jumper to save his damn life. he made quite a few last year. can he get better? definitely. a prime example is dwayne wade. in his first year, he would just drive, drive, drive... he got a mid-range game then. however, his 3pt shot was atrocious. last year, he finally worked on the 3pt shot and got it. and rondo is not just another starting PG. he's potentially an all-star PG (and possibly superstar). the dude carried the celtics for stretches, on a team with ray allen and paul pierce.
t_mac1, I don't see Rondo averaging over 18 PPG anytime during his career, but he is a special point guard who can "do it all." A much athletic Jason Kidd, imo.
until the playoffs, i would agree with you. if he gets on another team where he gets a more prominent role, i think he would as he matures. it just shows you rondo can play within a system, or elevate his game when the team asks him to.
The celtics are gonna have to throw in JR giddens in order for that trade to work. I doubt Brooks is going anywhere maybe Lowry instead.
I think he will suffer more with a team focusing on him. I will not criticize his defense, passing, ect, but one thing we can all criticize is his scoring. If he develops that one jumpshot you are talking about, its a different story, but we will have to see. He's only 23.
Now Jason Kidd or Old Jason Kidd? If you comparing him to 2001-2003 NJ Jason Kidd then guess you never seen him go off. That man can score and he is the real triple double machine. Rondo will never be Jason Kidd.
If Tmac is healthy, he can bring the ball up and be a playmaker - if you balance that with an undersized brooks or lowry, that is not a bad deal for the Celtics through whenever KG's window closes. Allen doesn't create for teammates like McGrady does in his prime. Also, you'd think that Boston would be able to get a pretty candid take on Mac's health through the TomT connection.
I could see Morey targeting Rondo, but there's not way that the C's pull the trigger on that deal. Sure the thought of having Pierce, TMac(if healthy), and KG on the floor at the same time is nice... but would they trust Brooks to take them all the way? For the Rockets, I can imagine Rondo and Ariza being terrors on D for a very long time. Try scoring on a Rondo, Ariza, Battier, Hayes, Yao lineup. Allen would be a nice one-year rental to go along with Rondo. Although this seems highly unlikely, I'll donate $50 to clutchfans if Morey scores us Rondo.
As long as Doc Rivers is coaching the C's, I highly doubt that they are looking at acquiring Tracy. As far as Rondo, he's definitely nice for the C's style of play (having 3 HOF's surrounding him doesn't hurt) but AB fits what Adelman's system calls for. Also, what is the motivation for the C's on this one? Rondo for AB straight up? Because that's what the deal comes down to. If Allen and Tracy are involved, they wash each other out.
Kidd was a stud for sure, but if Rondo can develop a jumpshot, he will be more efficient. Kidd averaged around 40-42 % on his field goals in his prime years, Rondo can be much more efficient. Rondo is really effective at rebounding a la Kidd and Kidd has 2 inches on him. Rondo is a solid passer and ONLY getting better.
If you can coup Rondo for McGrady you do it. Allen expires next season right? Easy decision IMO. Brooks isn't a point guard he is a score-first basketball player (fair enough) who can't carry a team on his own thus not all that. Ill take both, Rondo can guard the opposing 2. Speed out the wazoo.
the celtics would lose in this trade if they did do it. however, some positives for them: ray allen can't create. he's simply a shooter. when his shot is off, he's pretty much useless in their offense (as you saw the last 2 years). tracy mcgrady would provide the playmaking necessary. and you still got the clutch shooters in pierce, house, and brooks if he's included. also, they're in a win now mode as 3 of their best 4 players are over 30. if they can't resign rondo to be their franchise player, they gotta get something back. i'm sure other teams can offer more than what we can if it comes down to it. but it's purely a fun discussion for us right now. this would be the best trade scenario involving tracy b/c we get a player back that fits what morey is looking for: young, will be an all-star, defender, improving...
This all sort of came out of the blue, didn't it? I'll be stunned if there's anything to it and if there is, it's more likely to be Lowry going to the Celtics than Brooks, IMO.
Rondo is a play-making PG, plain and simple. Excellent rebounder, excellent passer, gets to the hoop off the pick, can't hit the open J to save his life... Does that sound like another PG on our roster?
Intriguing. Rondo for TMac, doesn't work; all depends on the other players in the trade. If it is Lowry and we get another decent player, deal. We are not getting Ray Allen.
