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Taliban hints at attacking aid

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by showtang043, Aug 26, 2010.

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    As far as hijab goes, once again, that is culturally. THe quran calls for women to cover their private parts, not just their face, etc. That goes to arabic culture, etc. Adn there are different interpretations of it. Nonetheless, what about parts of jewish culture where a married women must shave all of her hair off?


    And also, as you paint this portrait of Islam using these sort of general stereotypes so on, how would you have felt during the holocaust as the world's sentiment towards German's inhumanity towards jews? Hitler was a german christian, and often talked about christianity, the Nazis were all germans at that time and that whole country tortured millions of people. Should that inheritnely say something about Germans or German Christians?
     
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    Interesting, never heard of that before. What's the reasoning behind that? :confused:


    Fortunately not, as previous and subsequent history shows, but at the time when these things happened, it would have been more than fair to ask that question, and I am sure it was asked at the time. Not that it matters, but Hitler was actually Austrian by birth, and he didn't care about being Christian. To answer your question "how would you have felt during the holocaust as the world's sentiment towards German's inhumanity towards jews?", I would have felt that the world's sentiment was more than justified. What the Germans did was horrible. No need to be in denial about it. When members of a group you belong to (by choice or not) do horrible things, being in denial is the wrong path to take.
     
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    "The majority of Hasidic women, being Haredi, will wear clothing adhering to the principles of modest dress in Jewish law. This includes long, conservative skirts and sleeves past the elbow. In keeping with Jewish law, married women will cover their hair using either a sheitel (wig) or a tichel (scarf) which is often used to cover a shpitzel. In some groups, such as Satmar, women cut their hair short and wear a wig or tichel."

    "An Ultra orthodox Jewish woman is required to cut off her hair when she marries and from then on wear a wig.

    This is based on a particular verse in the book of Numbers, a part of the Torah or Old Testament. The Wig must then be worn as a head covering for the rest of her life even if divorced or she becomes a widow. Not all Jewish women observe this custom, only the very very orthodox."

    Do Jews, even though many don't follow this practice, just like in Islam, also inherently according to their religion keep their women in mobilized jail like you were saying for the parallel of Islam?

    And back to Germany, it had nothing to do with Christianity? Adolf Hitler was a christian and always appealed to Christianity and that helped his popularity and acceptance intact they promoted anti-semitism, and restoration of Christian values traditions.

    This is of course because they were in a time of turmoil and national embarrassment, so he unified him and used Christianity as a platform. When are you going to understand when you talk of a religion as inherently the reason behind such actions its just simply inaccurate, because you could apply it elsewhere.

    as per your German sentiment, I think its just flawed logic to say there was a German guy who worked hard and had a decent life, never got involved or believed in the nazi movement, but because he was a German Christian and because some people who lived a couple blocks away from him that he had nothing to do with, he better be punished, treated differently, and looked at differently afterward.
     
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    The whole of Germany got bombed to pieces, this obviously affected every non-Nazi as well - but it had to be done.
     
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    With respect, I am sorry I just think of your problem with Islam and the logic towards it is simply flawed. Say there was a small town and within that town a family of say 10 kids and parents. Say their was one kid who was particularly just a loose cannon, bad apple, got into trouble legally in the town, overall just a menace to society. The rest of the family didn't have trouble, kept to their own. The newspaper picks up on this guy though because he is making the news iwth all his troubles and issues with the law. In your logic, the whole family and the parents should be treated and looked at just like him just because of the association.
    Same with Germany, you felt the word should've looked at German's horribly when many did not take part and did not agree with such hatred acts.
    It really does generalize and stereotype and try to make everyone one in the same when there are so many factors that could be the cause of the roots of some of these bad apples, and with islam it's very apparent on where they are from, their political and social roots and agendas. It is easy to trace, and you can see the difference in muslims not involved or from theose areas and you see the difference in how they act. It is simple, that regardless of religion, someone growing up in such a turmoil, erratic, negative environment would be more violent, defensive, aggressive with a chip on their shoulder.
    This sort of cultural and religious illiteracy ultimately dehumanizes people. This is what's happen to the terrorist. They bombed 9/11, and because they felt they were under attack or had issues with american foreign policy, they just wanted to bomb america, and they dehumanized america and just made it a whole entity that was attacking them entirely, thats why to 9/11 they didnt kill these jews, christians, muslims, they just killed americans, they dehumanized them. This is what happen when the Nazis needed blame and dehumanized the Jews. It takes away humanity and individualism just as other genocides and it can be simply routed to cultural and religious illiteracy. I hope you see the dehumanization going on and I hope you see how dangerous it can be.
     

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