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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by aussiejack, Oct 12, 2013.

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  1. aussiejack

    aussiejack Member

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    Someone explain to me why people are getting pissy at me when I call Taiwan part of China. I looked it up. And they're officially called Republic of China. What the dealio man?
     
    #1 aussiejack, Oct 12, 2013
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    You are not very educated.

    lmgtfy
     
    #2 AroundTheWorld, Oct 12, 2013
  3. el gnomo

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    The dealio is you are officially an imbecile, mate.
     
    #3 el gnomo, Oct 12, 2013
  4. tallanvor

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    The people of Taiwan do not want or consider themselves as part of China. China considers Taiwan part of China. So when you say that, you are taking a side in a political debate. Taiwan is currently trying to make a mostly non-violent case for its freedom.

    Not sure why everyone's response is 'u dumb'. You are simply ignorant on Taiwanese affairs.
     
    #4 tallanvor, Oct 12, 2013
  5. Amiga

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    #5 Amiga, Oct 12, 2013
  6. aussiejack

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    Why doesn't Taiwan want to be part of China? From what I see, China's super rich now with a growing middle class and it is United States' biggest creditor. I mean if I was a nation of 23 million like Taiwan, I would want to team up right?
     
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  7. aussiejack

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    Don't be so narrow minded and try to engage with this topic at an intellectual level.
     
    #7 aussiejack, Oct 12, 2013
  8. Amiga

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    Would you want your family to be part of a richer family, but you must not speak, write, view p*rn sites or risk death?

    Just read the political status and if that doesn't explain thing enough, just move on.
     
    #8 Amiga, Oct 12, 2013
  9. Mr. Brightside

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    It mainly has to do with decades long animosity between the success of Taiwanese little league baseball and the relative failure of mainland China little league baseball.
     
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  10. tallanvor

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    Why in the world would Taiwan want the live under Chinese rule when they can live under their own rule? Not taking a side in the issue just pointing out the obvious desire to govern one's self.
     
    #10 tallanvor, Oct 13, 2013
  11. shastarocket

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    Here's a good documentary that explores their relationship. Doesn't go into too much detail, but it helps you understand the general atmosphere.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/vJw615t3g_U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I'd recommend any of the other docs in this series as well
    Episode 1: Somaliland
    Episode 2: Trans-Dniester
    Episode 3: Taiwan (Republic of China)
    Episode 4: South Ossetia and Abkhazia
    Episode 5: Nagorno-Karabakh
     
    #11 shastarocket, Oct 13, 2013
  12. aussiejack

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    Economic pragmatism my friend. Leech off their booming economy. That's the logical step forward.
     
    #12 aussiejack, Oct 13, 2013
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    Who are you to tell anyone about logical steps in any direction? How about you read and learn before you blabber.
     
    #13 AroundTheWorld, Oct 13, 2013
  14. Dairy Ashford

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    Holy crap, why is John Sununu choking the Mentalist?
     
    #14 Dairy Ashford, Oct 13, 2013
  15. aussiejack

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    Why are you being so disparaging? This is a civil discussion that's helping me to learn more about this history between china and Taiwan.
     
    #15 aussiejack, Oct 13, 2013
  16. CometsWin

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    I'm guessing the average Taiwanese is probably much wealthier than the average Chinese and they don't have to deal with a Communist politburo so that's probably win win in their eyes.
     
    #16 CometsWin, Oct 13, 2013
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    lol :grin:
     
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  18. Dairy Ashford

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    You can offer insensitive and condescending opinions about the choices of an entire region's populace, or you can betray a basic lack of knowledge about global affairs and the Cold War; but you can't do both.

    Honestly, this is right out of the last part of primary school.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Taiwan

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChiangKaiShek

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/NoMoreEmperors?from=Main.NoMoreEmperors
     
    #18 Dairy Ashford, Oct 13, 2013
  19. Rox>Mavs

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    Lots of factors to consider

    1) Taiwan is a democracy/China is communist
    2) ideology and values are different
    3) there was a civil war that spurred the formation of Taiwan.... That's usually enough to cause some bad blood
     
    #19 Rox>Mavs, Oct 13, 2013
  20. Major

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    If China just claimed Australia, and Australians said they were their own country, which side would you take?
     
    #20 Major, Oct 13, 2013
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