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T-Wolves get Michael Olowakandi

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RocksMillenium, Jul 16, 2003.

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  1. YoYao

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    now, T-Wolves are Offically out of playoff pic! Kandi man is a locker room cancer! he will demands more ball than Kelvin. if you think he would imporve play next to kelvin, see what he did play next to Elton! Elton is no medicore PF either.
     
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    1. The Timberwolves are a top 5 team in the West.
    2. Michael Olowokandi will not demand the ball. He never has.
    3. Who is Kelvin? Seriously I want to know who Kelvin is on the Timberwolves.
    4. Elton Brand isn't "Kelvin".
     
  3. RIET

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    He's thinking of Kelvin Cato, Kevin McHale, or Toronto pitcher, Kelvim Escobar.
     
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    It really makes no sense. Why not go to the Heat with Riley and few good big men and make a little more money. Maybe its not about the money though. I'll believe this when i see it.
     
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    ehh not true, Kandi demanded touches in LA. He also doesn't like to pass out of the post. Still a good signing for the Wolves though, he can play a little
     
  6. RIET

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    Riley is 1 step away from the looney bin and he's known for his strict discipline. Not the ideal place for one of the laziest players in the NBA.
     
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    Tuesday, July 15, 2003
    Free agency has yet to heat up in Miami

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    By Sam Smith
    Special to ESPN.com

    Oh, do I long for the days when Miami had an NBA franchise.

    What! They still do? This LeBron mania is distracting everyone. I've got to pay better attention. By the way, do they give championship rings in summer league? That's it. Maybe Pat Riley was distracted by LeBron, too. It must be something.

    Because the Miami Heat look like it has applied for dissolution.

    With about $11 million in salary cap room thanks to Anthony Carter's incredible blunder of failing to exercise his option (See, kids, it pays to stay in school. Oops, he did. Never mind.), the Heat suddenly became one of the big players in free agency.


    Can Pat Riley explain why no one wants to play for him or in Miami anymore?
    That sly fox, Riley. Here he would come. He scored a coup in the draft last year with Caron Butler. And with some big-time help -- maybe Jason Kidd or Jermaine O'Neal or Gary Payton, and, of course, the return of Alonzo Mourning -- Eddie Jones and Brian Grant could revert to their old supporting roles and Riles would be right back in the thick of that miserable Eastern Conference.

    But with the July 16 free-agent signing day just about here, there's been not a peep (or even a Pip, as in Scottie Pippen) from the Heat. Not even a chance to pay Juwan Howard a third of what they offered him a few years ago, letting him get ready to sign with the cash-strapped boys up the turnpike in Orlando. Not even one of those second-tier role players, like P.J. Brown or Andre Miller. Not even a whiff at one of those Clippers free agents, whom Riley supposedly has coveted for years.

    Remember those golden days when guys were supposed to want to play for Pat Riley, even with the boot-camp practices, because it meant winning? When guys wanted to make their homes in that South Florida sunshine, cut out the middle man and stay close to South Beach so they can be arrested near home where bond is easier? What happened to those golden days?

    Even Jones, who is from Florida, wants out. What, that 25-57 season and those three-hour practices weren't fun? The latest word is Jones could get his wish, although going to the other end of the NBA world, at least weather wise, may not be what he had in mind. Minnesota, striking out again in free agency more than Harmon Killebrew against Hoyt Wilhelm, has been dangling its big prize of Terrell Brandon. He's retired, everyone thinks, but the Bucks thought so, too, a few years back and it only was an ankle sprain. Anyway, the Timberwolves have been assured he won't play again and whoever gets him gets to take him off their books during next season and then pay him just one more year. Miami supposedly is interested in unloading Jones to get out from under his long-term contract through 2007 for Brandon.

    That ought to get them off the fishing boats and out of the Coconut Grove cafes to Heat games.

    Actually, that's the problem.

    No one in Miami much cares about the Heat. They didn't care much when the team was good. Selling sports in South Florida isn't easy when the sun shines every day and it's more pleasant outside in January than inside. But the Heat and owner/cruise ship impresario Mickey Arison wanted to see what would happen if the franchise did try.

    It did, really.

    Riley still thinks he could have made the playoffs last season. And that was four weeks after he'd been mathematically eliminated. Had Mourning not become ill a few years back, the Heat might have gone all the way after acquiring Jones and Grant, who were seemingly perfect complements. And if Tim Hardaway's knee had ... Oh, well. It all didn't happen.

    Riley had one of those George Allen football budgets. You know, unlimited, but he exceeded it, anyway.

    Not anymore.

    The talk around the NBA is the franchise will change hands in the next few years. The rumors are that this is the franchise NBA commissioner David Stern is targeting for Michael Jordan. Heck, Jordan's number is retired there already and the gold is great. It's like what the Bucks did when Jordan was in waiting. They began making what appeared like stupid moves, non-basketball moves, anyway. They were moves designed to get the payroll down, present a better balance sheet and allow the next owner to begin building almost from scratch.

    Bucks owner Herb Kohl had a change of heart. And perhaps Arison will, as well. But all signs point to something big happening in Miami.

    Because nothing at all seems to be happening in Miami.

    Riley was miserable last season. He told all his buddies around the NBA that. He told them he couldn't go through it again. But he also told them he owed so much to Arison, the way Arison brought him down there, put him in charge, gave him carte blanche to build a team and coach -- his dream, really -- and he just couldn't leave Arison with the team in the state that it's in. It had become the hanging chad of NBA franchises -- troubled, confused and going nowhere.

    Riley had looked toward this summer. The Heat had about $7 million in salary-cap room. It didn't seem like a lot, but hardly anyone had any. Having $2 million more than the salary-cap exception seemingly put the Heat in the driver's seat. Of a slick speedboat.

    No, they couldn't go after Kidd or O'Neal, for both would command maximum deals. But just about everyone else seemed in play.

    Then word surfaced that Carter had goofed. The Heat now had about $11 million to start a contract. It could offer a six-year deal worth over $80 million. In sunny Florida. With no state taxes. With a chance to win, salvage the franchise and play with top players like Jones and Grant. Certainly, Mourning would return -- he lives there, after all -- with a chance to win.

    The talk now is next season. Wait until Odom and maybe Elton Brand sign offer sheets and become unrestricted. Watch us then! And Kevin Garnett will be a free agent. Kobe Bryant, too,. Maybe even Tim Duncan if he doesn't re-up. Yeah, that's the ticket. Watch us in '04-05.


    But there wasn't a word from Kidd and no visits were planned for O'Neal, who did have a few in Texas before changing his mind about leaving Indiana. Michael Olowokandi talked about Denver. Howard talked about Minnesota, Detroit and Orlando. Brown talked about the Spurs before deciding to stay home. Miller talked about Denver and Utah. Same with Corey Maggette. Gilbert Arenas was mentioned in Miami. This after Denver told him to take a hike. There was no Karl Malone and no Lamar Odom, whom Riley pursued so much a few years back. No Jason Terry, who was rumored to be going there a few months back. Like Humpty Dumpty, no one can seem to put this Heat team back together again.

    The talk now is next season. Wait until Odom and maybe Elton Brand sign offer sheets and become unrestricted. Watch us then! And Kevin Garnett will be a free agent. Kobe Bryant, too,. Maybe even Tim Duncan if he doesn't re-up. Yeah, that's the ticket. Watch us in '04-05.

    This is not the Bulls of 2000, or even the Spurs this summer. Free agency is harder than anyone thinks. Having all that money sounds good, but you can't always get what you want, as the song goes. Denver had all the cap room and is going to sign a bunch of guys. And I've got them four years from the playoffs in the office pool. More often, the guys you want get away. And some you get and it doesn't work out, as the Magic will attest.

    But you try to do what you can. Pat Riley always tried harder than anyone else. It's hard to believe he's promoted this state of team affairs.

    The Heat still has an option, though. With salary-cap room, there are teams in luxury tax danger who'll dump a guy to you to save them money. Perhaps a team like Indiana, which doesn't seem to have the ability to re-sign Brad Miller after keeping O'Neal. So maybe Miami can get Al Harrington for a future draft pick. Maybe Portland throws the Heat Rasheed Wallace to save a lot of money. And maybe Riley, who remains a great coach without the talent to continue to show it, can figure him out. Maybe Riley has a free agent stashed away just waiting to shock the world. Hey, maybe LeBron James is going to demand a trade. Who knows now that he has his summer league ring?

    There are options for the Heat. It just doesn't appear like the team is pursuing any of them.

    Strange, very strange.
    Sam Smith, who covers the NBA for the Chicago Tribune, is a regular contributor to ESPN.com.
     
  8. pasox2

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    Wow. That's cheap.

    Must be a wink somewhere. I smell a Shandon Anderson.
     
  9. zhaozhilong

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    What's that supposed to mean?
     
  10. Newgirl

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    I am not surprised at all. I predict all along that Kandi will only command the MLE or maybe a little more this summer after he blew it last summer.

    But just some people on this board (the same people who think that Cato was not overpaid at 7/8m) told me that Kandi will get paid more. :rolleyes:
     
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    Wonder why Dallas missed out. They will be a great team with a legitimate inside presence! Mark Cuban, get your ass to work.
     
  12. leebigez

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    I thought he'd at least get Cato money :D . I think thiswas a steal for Minny and a huge lost to a team like NY,Dallas and even Utah to a degree. Kandi isn't a finished project and if he plays up, he'll still be 30 or 31 his next contract and could get a big payday for about 4yrs. I think that Kandi and Rasho is a wash. I'm still wondering if Minny would like to take Taylor and Norris for Brandons expiring contract.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Can the Clippers Match this and force M.O. to stay?

    Rocket River
     
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    No, because Kandi man is an unrestricted free agent...
     
  15. Clutch

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    I'm with lancet - a very good center just signed the MLE and Dallas missed out. This is a great pickup for the Wolves... I was actually thinking they were going to drop a notch after losing Nesterovic, trading Joe Smith and not signing Juwan Howard. Sure they had Cassell, but they were looking depleted inside. This is a huge signing for them.
     
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    Wow. I did not see this one. For that matter, I think every FA signing this year has caught me off guard.

    Olowakandi for the MLE is a good signing.
     
  17. rockbox

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    Kandi probably signed for the MLE with the understanding that he will get a big contract after 3 years. This is illegal in the NBA and the reason Minnesota didn't have a first round pick for the last 2 years. Everyone thinks we did the same thing for Shandon since Shandon played for us for 2 years for almost nothing and then we got him a big contract in NY.
     
  18. Loco Gringo

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    Great signing by the T-wolves.. does this now mean B. Miller will go to Denver?..
     
  19. Deuce

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    Agreed! Incredible SAVE for the Wolves! I am really amazed! Interesting that Kandi and Rasho have the SAME AGENT! That's how this deal got done.

    If I am Dallas today I am killing myself! They lose out on Kandi and the MLE? Good grief! How can they live that one down! Huge kick in the crotch there!

    Kandi will do well in Minnesota. I think Rasho is a better center than Kandi but I think Kandi plays the BIGGER centers (Oneal etc) better than Rasho does so this actually might do more good for Minnesota.

    As for those of you talking about what is Miami going to do, why did they not go after Kandi? Cause they are going after BRAND!
     
  20. Deuce

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    You can BET this time they did not "write in down on a contract!" like they did with Joe Smith. he he.

    Suspecious that the contract is for only THREE years...just long enough to obtain Bird Rights. ;)
     

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