No need to read more into that statement that what he put in, look at the context, you should probably know what he means by that.
Since when what? Why do have to be worried about when something originated? Look! I can take things out of context too!
Oh I know exactly what he meant by it - I didn't take it out of context at all. He's suggesting that certain fans are lesser than others, and they have a different role (ie, they aren't allowed to trash talk). That's extraordinarily dumb to say that certain fans are allowed to do more or less than other fans. Fans are fans. What's good for one is good for another. The idea that there are tiers of fans goes back to certain people needing to feel superior to others.
Ok, the only part I don't get is who the hell travels out of state for nursing school? Nursing school? Her?
I don't think that is what he meant at all. Looks to me like he meant that it isn't your place to talk s**t and kick dirt in people's faces on behalf of a school/team that you have no substantial attachment to. For example, me ragging on somebody from A&M about getting buttraped by UT last night.
Obviously, you didn't get it. I have never once said anyone can or can't do anything. I am saying, to me, in my personal opinion, those people who talk **** about something that they are not affiliated with, whether it be someone from Houston talking **** to a Lakers fan because the Heat beat them, a financial advisor talking **** about the medical school a doctor went to, a cowboy talking **** about the type of ****ing arrowhead an indian is shooting, or a Sam Houston Alumni talking **** to any other school about UT, looks like an idiot.
That's exactly what I'm referencing. What you say implies that if the person did go to the school, they can trash talk. If they didn't, it's somehow wrong. Two tiers of fans - "real fans" and "t-shirt fans". It's assigning different things that are acceptable depending on what class of fan you are. That's moronic.
It's not wrong, it makes you look dumb. You annoy me if you do that about anything. This is not a moral issue. It's about not looking r****ded.
Fair enough. I think anyone that divides fans into different classes and thinks its OK for certain ones to do something that others can't is an idiot. And anyone that judges people based on how they became a fan (or even cares) is even more of an idiot and has an apparent need to feel superior to others.
What's more moronic is talking s*** and being a general asshat on behalf of a team or school you have no real connection to other than dislike of the team which they beat. Brb, updating my facebook status... "LOLZ A&M SUX 2ND TIER COW COLLEGE HOOK EM FOREVER BABY"
Trash talk always makes people look dumb. Whether someone went to the school or not doesn't make them necessarily care more or less about a team than someone else. I know lots of Longhorn alums who care less about their teams than non-alums that are fans. If anything, it would be much stranger to see those alums trash talking than than the non-alums. Simply put, going to a school doesn't suddenly make someone a fan. Not going doesn't make them not a fan. There's simply no correlation, and it doesn't make sense to judge people based on an assumed correlation.
Is it nor moronic to be an asshat on behalf of a team you DO have a connection to? That somehow makes it better? It seems to me that being the asshat is the part that makes one moronic. The fact that you have a connection or not to the school is pretty much irrelevant.
The more direct or meaningful association someone has with a team or school, generally the more I respect their fandom or tolerate their asshatery (depending on what road they chose to go). If you don't think you can draw any meaningful inferences about people based on the motivations of their actions and the relationship therein, then so be it. But I beg to differ; and after the 9th or 10th time arguing this subject on this BBS, I'm more than past the point of agreeing to disagree.
I'm a Baylor grad. My family are UT folks. I love the Horns. Grew up on the Horns. I won't usually root for them over BU (unless BU is in the toilet and the Horns need a win to sustain a national title drive -- even then, i just don't watch). My kids wear UT stuff. My older boy loves UT and wants to go there...influenced by my family, largely. He rags on me everytime BU plays UT in any sport. It's ridiculous to equate me rooting for the Horns to starting to randomly cheer for the "Yankees, Heat, Patriots, and Lakers" because I have zero connection to those teams or the cities they play in/for. None at all. To say that ignores the connection I do have to the Horns. I sat with my father when the Horns won the National Championship and watched the man shed tears as they won. There's connection there that far exceeds randomly picking up a team and rooting for them.
A "direct or meaningful" association is completely in the eye of the beholder....It's very easy to say that, simply because somebody happened to spend 4 years in the same city/campus as some other guys that now play amateur basketball doesn't make them blood brothers, given that the separation of their shared experience in time, quality, and geography. Conversely, what if your real blood brother does in fact, play xyz game/sport for said city/campus, is that direct or meaningful? The permutations are endless. It's a completely arbitrary test you're setting up, if asshattery is the problem, I say focus on the ass hat, rather than the asshaberdasher's provenance.
Keep looking like an idiot, and I will keep treating you like an idiot. You can do whatver you want. I would just tone it down in public.
No argument here. It's blatantly subjective and personal. Much like everyone's standards for almost everything else in life and how they judge those things. Which is why I don't expect people to agree on this.
