T-Mac's action vs. Magic (plus interview after game)

Reminder, let this sink in 1-10.

 

Yes, and feel free to post about them in other threads......

Again, I will call a rose a rose.....

And tonight Tmac was crap.....but the issue is not about missed shots, it is about lack of effort.

That is what happened in the Toronto game, it is what happened in the GS game where Van Gundy benched him.

It has been a habitual problem for the guy.....and thus the reason I think he will ultimately be traded.

DD

 

Why so negative? Either he blends in next year or he will be gone. Both scenarios do not sound bad. Of course I for one wish him the best, also in a Rockets jersey.

 

Effort isn't always measured in others by what you see, especially when you're comparing their effort to the effort of others. We dont know what he's feeling or thinking at the moment. For all we know he's doing what he can, but you expect more, see more from his teammates, and therefore assume there is a lack of effort on his part. I think the problem here is this: Tmac is able to take the punishment of game play, he can run, jump, etc. However, his knee isn't going to feel right for a long while, even he and others who have had the surgery have said, even after you're able to play it takes time to feel "right" again. I dont think there's pain or anything like that, but just a feeling of instability or something similar. It's very possible at times certain motions feel fine and then others dont. Can you clearly say he gave no effort on every single defensive play today, but gave effort on every single defensive play last night? Prob not, I think it was probably about the same each night, it just stands out more tonight because he faced a better team, a better player, and we were losing. It's like when the team loses and we got several posters claiming we gave a piss poor effort, yet the effort was truly the same, but a better opponent just outplayed us and in the process made us look worse.

 

Because cancer......SPREADS !

Exactly.

DD

 

i wish this board had some facebook features. oh well ill improvise:

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You guys can keep making excuses...I am off to bed.

If Tmac keeps sucking his time will not increase it will decrease......

So far...his 6 games have been overall...unimpressive.

DD

 

I believe a lot of the strife here is caused by much too high of expectations.

Common sense would lead us to believe that, yes, if T-mac says he is back and ready (as in, ready to play starter's minutes), then in just 8 minutes he should really be giving it his all.

The problem is that we're dealing with T-mac here. People expect T-mac to all of a sudden develop great levels of hustle and effort... which hasn't been his strong suit in the past, especially on the defensive end. For T-mac, being 'back' is more or less getting back to how he always used to play - ie, absolutely brilliant sometimes and lackadaisical the others.

This is not to bash T-mac. I want him to get back to 100% as long as he is in a Rockets uniform... when he is rolling, he can really help this team. However, people shouldn't expect him to be a completely different player than he was before.

 

can you please point out where the lack of effort was. Are you watching his every move. If so i would advise you to watch every move of ariza or shane, and see for yourselves they sometimes dont look like they are giving it there all. But back to my point, i saw the effort by t-mac. I dang near drove the same amount of times that he drove to the basket in the LA game. he just didnt score, and he put forth the effort on defense, he is just having a habit as of right now of helping too much on defense and leaving his man open, but he does hustle back to the man to try and contest the wide open jumpshot, it may be bad d at times, but it isnt because of a lack of effort.

 

and in his games, he has played 8 mins each. its a man who hasnt played since early feb of last year, and yet you want him to be effective for the rockets after playing 8 mins. I dont see how he has enough time to even get into the flow of things, but i do see him testing out his limitations and what he can and cant do on the court after surgery. he is still trying to figure that out. If the rockets wanted to see what you want to see, they wouldnt be playing him just 8 mins a game

 

Yeah but ariza sucks

 

i pointed that out in last night's tmac thread...it seemed like he was standing around on D, i was getting ready to blast him, yet i noticed Ariza kept standing around too...so i wondered how many others also stood around at time s also...i couldnt blast tmac or ariza because it's not every day you watch clips of one single player's defensive plays. It becomes much more obvious then, which i tihnk is the case here. Tmac has always stuck to his man and never been much of a help defender, that's why he always points at others to pick up their man and gets blasted for not going to get him himself...the ideal defender would do it, but im not gonna blast tmac because someone else lost their man as long as he knows where his is and is on him. Not every NBA player is a great help defender...

 

The team is much better without ariza

 

This is rich. You start off with blasting Tmac for his D and effort, but then devolve into this. How does being a subpar help defender mean that "his style doesn't fit, his attitude doesn't fit, his demeanor doesn't fit"?

Your logic is the one that doesn't fit. What does help D have to do with what you do on the offensive end? You don't even have proof of Tmac's attitude and demeanor not fitting on the Rox? In his interview Tmac plainly said he doesn't want to rock the boat and be a distraction on the team. And you just gloss over that and immediately go on a rampage: OMG Tmac's help D sux! He's not bleeding on the floor, ship him out right now he's a freakin' cancer!

You're just ranting for the sake of ranting, just admit it you're a Tmac hater, plain and simple. Nothing he does will ever be good enough for you, and everything he does bad is the highest upfront. Do you honestly think Ariza is playing better than Tmac right now? I'd rather have Tmac who shoots 2-5 and has lousy help D over Ariza who shoots 1-10.

 

You've got to be kidding me. This is the same guy who just complained about his minutes to the press after the game.

 

McGrady: "...contract season for me. We've got to think about that as well."

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/12/17/mcgrady-wants-to-re-sign-with-houston/

 

What an absolute ****ty thing to say. Yeah we know it's on your mind but you don't say crap like that when you are coming off an injury and trying to fit in with the team.

Complete jackass.

Selfishness. The story of his career, and a fitting resume as well.

 

i think you are overrracting, mabye you should see what they asked him

 

which could mean he wants to show he can still play, so he can sign with a contending team??

i mean, what contending team wants bad players?

it's obvious tmac knows the team does not have him in his plans. he has to think for the future. just like our team is thinking for its future without tmac. nothing wrong with what both sides are thinking.

 

I've come to the conclusion that trying to figure out what McGrady is "really" saying is an exercise in futility. Since the guy's not going to stop talking, all I can do is stop listening.