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T-Mac should take a backseat

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Kim, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. koopa

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    *NEWSFLASH* ALL the things you said about Tmac is true. But he's not a POST PLAYER! or atleast not ANYMORe! He needs to take the backseat ..period! Be a team player, because if you expect him to drive to the basket or post more...that'll only be in your dreams! He's not a post player..and he's brokeback and he doesn't have kobe's ability of slashing and finishing! I haven't seen him slash efficiently in 1 game yesterday or last season..so tmac should just focus on the *TEAM* but I don't know he seems obsessed with his *Free ROle* and scoring 30 points with his JUMPERS.
    Believe it or not folks..he is going to score most of his points as a jumper guy..nothin else. I think he CAN be efficient with this, BUT not in this manner..because he should be more team oriented and let the game come to him. But I don't know how JVG is handling things. Even the rockets defending is a blooper reel llike last year..
     
  2. RocketForever

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    Thank you for your works. But if you watch the replay of every single basket on tape (even better in slow motion), you will find out in at least 25% of them a foul should have been called before the ball went into the net, whether it was travelling, 3 seconds violation, illegal body contact, charge, etc.

    I don't really care if the hook used by Yao looks like a foul on tape. What I want to know is whether the same 'technique' is consistently called foul by the refs on other players or not.
     
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  3. KeepKenny

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    Yes. Look at what's happening in this thread. We are slowing down videos of our guys and trying to argue that he's committing a foul. What is there to gain from this?
     
  4. professorjay

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    Arrgggh! I tried avoiding this board until Saturday. It's like the LA Riots in here any everyone has just lost it. But I couldn't resist: At this point it looks like Yao should be in the driver seat, but Tmac should be in the PASSENGER SEAT :p

    I think it would be nice if we could set up a few more plays where Tmac gets the ball while slashing to the basket, if there's nothing there kick it out for a jumper. I know Tmac can create his own shot, but help the man out! I hate Kobe & Shaq, but maybe our duo could learn some tips on playing off each other better from them.
     
  5. RocketsMac

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    first of all, the hook is not a "technique", it's a non-voluntary over-extension of the arm to protect the dribble or facilitate a move.. it's called a foul ON EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THE NBA, not only Yao.. I agree that Yao gets called for a lot of BS fouls, but not this one.. this one is crystal clear..

    I dont know why y'all are getting mad.. I think every true rockets fan should give his opinion on how to improve our team's play and we should give suggestions and advice for them.. I just want Yao to avoid the "hook" because that spin move looks beautiful without getting called for a foul.. it's very effective..
     
  6. ClutchCityReturns

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    I was just pointing out that Yao hooks a lot on that move. If he doesn't want to get called for it, he needs to simply NOT DO IT. I watch a lot of basketball and I don't see anybody else (other than maybe Shaq) who hooks as he spins like that.

    And don't be naive. The only reason I mentioned slowing down the footage is because there isn't a clear view of Yao during the entire spin move. You have to see a select few frames to tell where his arm is. This isn't something you'd have to dissect if there were a clear viewing angle. He is usually very blatant about it.

    I hope that makes sense.
     
  7. Riz

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    I agree Tmac needs to drive in alot more and most of the time he will get fouled this will not only help his stats but its will help the team greatly!! and its but surprising thats Tmac jump shots are getting worse every season, I would say the best thing fo him to do is go to the basket. I would really love to see that!!!
     
  8. RocketForever

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    Don't be sensitive. That 'better in slow motion' is not a diss on you. I think you'd agree that anyone would see a foul more clearly in slow motion, right?
     
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    What I am getting is that since you didn't mean to say "always" when you used the word "always", it's therefore NOT a foul called on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IN THE NBA.
     
  10. Rockets Dynasty

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    This is just too much to believe.
     
  11. RocketForever

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    Your efforts as a true rockets fan on proposing how to improve our team plays is very admirable. But you seem to be the only one who gets mad here. Using caps on the net is considered yelling afterall. :)
     
  12. Rockets Dynasty

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    BINGO.
     
  13. Rockets Dynasty

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    Magic and Penny played PG and almost NEVER guarded the opposing team's PG. Pippen and Bird were deemed SF's but they ran the offense.


    I think T-Mac is actually 27, but he's definitely ready to guard SF's and run the offense with the dominant big man ala Magic.
     
  14. Rockets Dynasty

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    Dude Hakeem "hooked" and layed in an elbow in about EVERY time he went to the rim. Just let it go.
     
  15. compucomp

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    It seems he's a T-Mac fan, so he thinks Yao is just a big stiff getting in the way of T-Mac's greatness. Except T-Mac isn't all that great any more.

    What's different about that, I wonder, than a "nerdy Chinese YOF" saying that maybe, just maybe T-Mac should shoot less jumpers to increase that stellar 33% FG% of his? Hell this is worse, at least we're not saying that T-Mac travels on his trips to the basket.
     
  16. compucomp

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    Um, no. If the refs called the game like this Shaq wouldn't last 10 minutes. He'd foul out on offensive fouls.

    Fine then. You're clearly a troll, but I'll bite. Here's my advice on how to improve the Rockets' play. How about your boy T-Mac ATTACK THE F*CKING BASKET MORE, and maybe, just maybe, pass the damn rock to Yao when Yao is in the post and has one-on-one coverage? Your boy T-Mac is FAR more responsible for this loss than Yao.
     
  17. nahmorlah

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    Ummm...so as much as I would like T-mac to shoot better, aren't we kind of overlooking the fact that he also got 5 rebounds, 9 assists, and 3 steals with only 1 turnover...

    Excuse me...are we not intelligent adults here? Just because a Mavs fan or a Spurs fan may not point out the faults of their players in a discussion about the faults of their players doesn't mean we need to follow their example. How is it trolling to say that we, as Rockets fans, should intelligently discuss how a player could improve (though this does not in any way mean we have influence on how a player might play)? Isn't it the same as people here desiring T-Mac to attack the basket more?
     
  18. compucomp

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    Saying that Yao commits offensive fouls on most of his moves is FAR stronger than saying T-Mac should attack the basket more. Those statements aren't even comparable.

    Saying that Yao is committing offensive fouls every play is basically saying that Yao doesn't know how to play the game, he's just big, abusing his bigness, and needs help from the refs, i.e. he sucks and is overrated. Well then what the hell has Shaq been doing for the past 13 years, and didn't this style of playing make him the "MDE"?

    Saying that T-Mac should attack the basket more is a simple observation. We know T-Mac can shoot, but he was clearly winded by the fourth quarter and thus was short-arming most of his shots. When this happens he should attack the basket and get to the line. It does not imply anything malicious of the sort that stating Yao commits offensive fouls every play does.
     
  19. nahmorlah

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    I'm pretty sure whoever said that retracted his statement of always. Besides, I took that as being a figure of speech rather than something he actually believed. Seriously tho, how did you get that Yao doesn't know how to play, that he's abusing his bigness, and needs help from the refs...and especially that he sucks and is overrated. The poster also stated that he only hooks in one specific instance of the hook move (which could be true) and actually the person who made that video actually verified this. I generally really enjoy reading your posts but I think in this instance, you are overreacting to a simple observation he made.
     
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  20. macfan

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    Hey compucomp

    Let's just clear this up because it's becoming a little amiguous to comprehend.

    Are you saying the Tmac should drive to the basket more?
     

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