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T-Mac, please do NOT jump shot in the last few minutes of a close game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Queeni, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. Janny

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    Agree with u , SF3 is the answer of last ball.
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    TMac and Francis are total opposites in regards to how they get going. Tmac sets up his drives with his jumpshot while Francis sets up his jumpshots with his drive. Tmac isn't really that good at breaking his man down off the dribble. He sets up his drives with a pump fake or screen. If you ISO him, all he can do his make a jump shot or turnaround unless the defender buys into his pump fake because he doesn't possess the speed or strength to just blow by his defender. This is the reason why long defenders like Rashard give him trouble. They are long enough to get in his face when he jumpshoots without buying into his pump fakes.
     
  3. kwng

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    IMO, there are risks involve of getting the ball getting strip when you drive
    particularly near the end of the game where your opponent usually collapse
    on anyone who drive to prevent him from scoring. This doesn't mean you shouldn't drive. Adelman should create gameplan to open up or break up your
    opponent from collapsing or deceive opponent to create gap for driving.
    With Francis and Tmac, such game plan is easier to execute as opponent
    is not sure who will drive and pass and vice versa. Such gameplan to create
    gap for driving increases the chances of driving success and reducing the risks of being stripped. Last night against the Suns, Francis drive and score
    in crunch time but he succeed because of his skills and talents. The ball could have easily bounced out of the rim as he threw it up while losing his balance or stripped by collapsing defense. There was no active game plan to pull the opponent defense away or create gap for driving.
     
  4. kwng

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    Currently I think their passing is still in learning curve. They are have not played together long enough to be comfortable with quick passes and constant movement.
     
  5. doublehh03

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    u just started watching basketball? u don't become a prolific scorer w/o knowing how to beat your man off the dribble and he's one of the top 2-3 scorers in the world.

    maybe the long defenders give him trouble b/c they can give him some space for his shot and still has the length to disrupt his J while defending against the drive (the reason why tmac usually has struggles v. kg). he struggled v. marion but his J was just off that night.

    u cant just score 30-40 on the bowens/artests... w/ just jumpers and pump fakes man.
     
  6. JayZ750

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    agreed. he is really going to the rack a lot more in the first 3 quarters this year, it seems. But last 3 minutes of the game, he starts taking the jump shots, when it is absolutely imperative he drives.
     
  7. EssTooKayTD

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    C'moooon guys. Tracy has a good mix to his game right now. He's hitting from long, mid, and close. Last night, he was missing from the FT line.

    He wins for us. He'll lose some. Don't bite the hand that feeds you! :D
     
  8. jump shooter

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    The rockets don't lose when T-Mac attacks the bucket. He lets the defense off the hook when he settles for the long fadeway, its a low % shot. Thats the difference between T-Mac and Kobe.
     
  9. Tmac4theWin

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    Most superstar uses jumpshot to end the game. I do not think there's anything wrong with that. It's not like hes 0- 123123 everytime.

    Kobe - took the jumpshot vs. Nets and missed. NO ONE COMPLAINED!
    Wade - took the jumpshot vs. Boston and missed.

    The only one who drives in the end is lebron. but it's because he goes straight for the dunk which you either has to foul or get posterized.

    You live and die with it.
     
  10. EssTooKayTD

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    Riiiight, b/c Kobe NEVER takes a long 3 while double or triple teamed to try and win a game.
     
  11. doublehh03

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    he does that when it's not to win a game. people don't get that kobe is a jumpshooter just as much as tmac. but in the last few yrs, b/c of the injuries, tmac's jumper hasn't been as good as kobe.

    this year, tmac's jumper is on par w/ kobe => hence he's shooting 45-46%, which was how he shot in orlando.

    that's why kobe never shoots 50%, he takes A TON of jumpers. the reason for his high ft attempts is b/c he has SUCH a great pump fake (just as good if not better than tmac) that he gets to the line by just jumpshooting.
     
  12. EssTooKayTD

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    I was agreeing with you. I should have put sarcism tags on my message. I thought the Riiiight was the sarcastic part :p

    or am I reading your post wrong? heh
     
  13. doublehh03

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    i'm just reiterating your point ;) . but it's not just to win games either.

    a perfect example is against the nets a few days ago. he was HORRIFIC shooting the ball (like 4-16). then he comes back in the 4th and STILL jacks up jumpers (but now they went in). to win the game before the last possession, he took a jumper over 2 people.

    i saw your sarcasm ;)
     
  14. solid

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    Unless you make it! :D
     
  15. m0lson

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    I agree... to some extent. If Tmacs jump shot has been on all game then I have no problems with him taking late shots. However he was shooting poorly last night, and he shouldn't have taken that shot with under 2 min left. attack the basket
     
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    Steve didn't settle for a jumpshot last night ...and he sealed the game.

    btw, why would anybody here complain when Kobe and Wade take jumpers in the 4th quarter?
     
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    I agree with the thread title, yet also agree with this post. Actually, that's what makes it so frustrating to watch T-Mac settle for jumpers, because we know he has the explosiveness, craftiness, and vision to get a better percentage play driving to the paint.

    But yeah, make no mistake, T-Mac is fast. Maybe people get fooled into thinking he's not that fast because he takes such long strides, but he covers a lot of ground with each stride, and quickly.

    2 years ago in the playoffs, T-Mac got blocked on his way up for a 3-ptr from behind by Devin Harris. Harris recovered the steal and raced back on a one man break, but T-Mac pursued him and caught up. The thing about watching that play was that Harris' legs were churning like Fred Flintstone, while T-Mac looked like he was going for a light jog, yet they were moving at the same speed. Summary, T-Mac is fast. Don't be fooled by the long strides.
     
  18. doublehh03

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    that was a VERY VERY difficult layup. that wasn't a high percentage shot by any means. and the refs weren't calling any fouls.

    francis has the ability to make those b/c he's that good, but that was a VERY tough shot.
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    See I don't buy whole theory of "TMac can't blow by his defender or he doesnt have the strength"!! Its total BS, maybe last yr that was true because of how out of game shape he was, but not this yr. Tmac can beat his defender off the dribble whenever he wants. He Rudy Gay, a guy who is just as athletic, and taller than Tmac couldn't stay in front of him if he wanted too! I think he has to have the mindset of attacking, but also another key thing was the Mac was only 3-8 fts last night, which probably gets him questioning to drive
     

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