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T-Mac needs to redefine his role [T-Mac vs Iverson]

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lonestar, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. skillz034

    skillz034 Member

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    this article is bs. judgments are way too early. mcgrady hasnt even played yet.
     
  2. sw847

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    hey i am not agreeing to the article at all as tmac was never the cancer or selfish player iverson was. But saying tmac is and was better than jordan? lol hope you were being sarcastic bro.
     
  3. Lonestar

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    Are u kidding me? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: T-Mac has not been playing us ? ;) ;)

    If you check the recent discussions on Clutchfans on T-Mac or Yao who both are on injury and inactive list , you should know who is playing while who is not :cool: :cool:
     
  4. roksoer

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    the (only) difference is, tmac is willing to prove his worth through playing time, while AI is too stubborn to play a few games coming off the bench to see if he's still able to be a starter and is expressed his frustrations through words, not by playing.
     
  5. roksoer

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    has expressed*
     
  6. H-TownBBall

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    I do remember a quote last year where he said he couldn't be effective unless he got more consistent touches. This was after his "let me take a week off to train and now I am back to normal" stunt. The team was trying to shift to a Yao-centric offense and he was complaining about a lack of touches. That sounds like wanting the offense adapted to suit him.
     
  7. mdrowe00

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    You're right, H-TownBBall....

    ...it's been well documented that Tracy McGrady did at times complain about his role in Rick Adelman's offense. A role that, for him, meant more activity away from the ball, and doing the work to get open shots without the basketball as well as with it.

    I understand anybody harboring a grudge against McGrady for this. But McGrady, before Rick Adelman became coach of this team, was the primary ballhandler and decision maker offensively for the Rockets.

    I don't imagine it would be especially easy for McGrady to relinquish that to someone else (there were rumblings that Rafer Alston and McGrady didn't exactly see eye-to-eye on that responsibility, considering that Alston never was a good facilitator or perimeter shooter), but as the team's talent level has increased, McGrady has had to accept a more definitive role offensively, H-TownBBall.

    What everybody fails to mention (or conveniently misremembers) is that McGrady did eventually adjust, and even though he didn't always have the numbers or touches he may have been accustomed to, the offense worked well enough to winn 22-straight games.

    McGrady is his own wost enemy at times, H-TownBBall, He can be infuriatingly dense, but he isn't stupid. If it works, McGrady will accept it. That's why a lot of the feeling that he's "cancerous" and will "...disrupt team chemistry..." is not as big a deal as it's being made out to be.

    In spite of himself, sometimes, McGrady is more or less manageable.

    As with a lot of athletes who are accustomed to shouldering excessive loads and bearing a ton of criticism, sharing responsibility is not easy for McGrady to do. Even now, with the team doing as well (if not better) than anybody expected, the standards for success are much lower and easier to accept than they've ever been with McGrady in the equation.

    That's the blessing and curse of extremely talented players, H-TownBBall. They're the reasons why a team wins and loses, far too often.

    Everybody will accept losing or mediocre play from the team, and even go out of their way to praise them. But people will burn Yao and McGrady at the stake at every opportunity.

    I take what any player says with a grain of salt, personally, H-TownBBall, because what matters is performance. If a player gets the job done, what he says or feels or thinks about it is his business.

    I mean, we all loved Ron Artest because he tried, right?
     
  8. BEAT LA

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    That is just pure hate. I've never seen anyone say someone is a year older 6 months prior.
     
  9. gotsis

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    Funny article the guy hasnt even played and he compares him to the iverson situation....
     
  10. ryano2009

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    it's just another writer hating on t-mac and iverson...not a big deal....
     
  11. Voice of Reason

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    The evidence is in how Tracy plays within the motion offense. There is no motion in Tracy’s game. Adelman’s offense requires constant movement. Tracy does a lot of standing and not enough moving. He rarely goes to the proper position, which would allow proper floor balance allowing others to get easier shots. By not moving he completely shuts down an area of the court.

    You can see a big difference in player movement when Tracy is in the game and when he is not in the game. Since coaches rarely make that big of a change in their offensive scheme, one would question whether Tracy is not buying into the system. He seems to be playing JVG offense while everyone else is playing motion offense.
     
  12. sephiroth.hk

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    me too. just read 1st sentence. xd
     
  13. t_mac1

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    tracy had the best statistical start to his career in 07-08 while playing the adelman's offense (he was the only one then).

    he can do it. the question is, is he healthy and good enough to do it?
     
  14. albuster

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    Maybe some folks here need to clean up their McGrady tinted glasses and read the article again a few more times and try to really understand what the writer was saying. I read the article more than once to convince me that the writer was wrong but I have come to the conclusion that with a minor thing here and there he was spot on. :cool:
     
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    Tracy’s stats were great that year. However, they were great because of Tracy’s athletic ability, not because he played motion offense. Great statistics are individual achievements and don’t always reflect the team game. You can stick any all-star on the Rockets that year and they would put up great numbers. How far the team goes into the playoffs depends on all five players on the court playing cohesively within the offense. When one player is playing a different offense than the others, your team will not go very far.
     
  16. TMac4Life#1

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    And your name is the Voice of Reason... Dude that year lets say about the first 7 games or so McGrady bought into the offense. He was playing off ball and going through screens. Where were you that year.
     
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    I dont think u know what shape he is in, non of us truly do. But to say he has a body more like a 41 year old?! Thing is, Tracy still could be the franchise player on this team, u dont no how well he will play. Quit with the Iverson comparisons
     
  18. Voice of Reason

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    Tracy played 66 games that year. Thanks for helping me prove my point.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    after the hot start, injuries came about. so like i said, is he healthy now?
     
  20. OldSchool34

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    Sorry, but T-Mac's Prime OWNS Jordan's Prime.

    I mean 13 points in 35 seconds? MDPE...Most....Dominant...Prime....EVER. He was on pace to score 26 points in 70 seconds... :eek:

    It really sucks that his prime only lasted for 35 seconds though, What a Shame.
     

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