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T-Mac for Baron Davis? (Update from Sporting News)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by worzel gummidge, Feb 18, 2009.

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JayGoogle said:

Also...ESPN hasn't reported it yet so there is chance. ESPN never gets hold of the big trades. Like How Pau to the Lakers just happened out of nowhere? They also didn't expect the Chandler trade, ESPN is still saying the Rockets are not trading Tmac.
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Sadly they have Reported there was a chance at a three way deal between NJ, Houston, and LAC.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-090218

Chris Broussard: It looks like it's Portland or bust for Vince Carter, according to a person with knowledge of the trade talks surrounding New Jersey's star forward.

"It's looking like it's going to be head-to-head between Carter and Richard Jefferson," the person said. "I think Jefferson's going to be the one who goes to Portland."

While Carter may be the better player, Portland's concerned with Carter's age (he turned 32 last month) and the three years, $51 million left on his contract (though only $4 million of the $18 million in his final season is guaranteed).

The Nets have their own concerns about Carter's contract and that's why they've been shopping him. They've spoken with San Antonio, Houston and Dallas but nothing has come of those talks.

Discussions with San Antonio have broken down because the Spurs, while willing to part with Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto, are not willing to include Roger Mason Jr. and George Hill in the deal.

Houston would have traded Tracy McGrady for Carter, but McGrady's announcement that he'll have season-ending microfracture surgery killed those chances.

"There will be no Vince deal," another source close to the situation said, referring to the Rockets.

The Los Angeles Clippers, who since training camp have regretted signing Baron Davis to a five-year, $65 million deal, have tried to get involved, proposing a three-team move that would send Davis to Houston, McGrady to New Jersey and Carter to LA. But no one but the Clippers liked that deal.

If Carter doesn't go to Portland, will the Nets send him wherever they can?

"I'd be surprised if they did a straight salary dump, but at the end of the day that might be best for their organization," said one source.

As for Milwaukee's Jefferson, it's far from a done deal that he'll join the Blazers. The Bucks would love to send Jefferson to Portland in a deal that would bring back Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract, but another executive close to the talks said, "It's not dead but there's nothing happening right now."

The Bucks' talks with San Antonio about Jefferson have stalled as well.

Portland's telling teams it has 15 different players it can get for LaFrentz. But many executives around the league are skeptical, saying the Blazers like to talk about deals but are always hesitant to pull the trigger on anything significant.
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Dont know if that means we are no longer pursuing him either?

#301 J.R., Feb 18, 2009

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What contending teams need a true center? I doubt a lottery bound team would want to take on Kaman's contract.

#302 Sooner423, Feb 18, 2009
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Face it. The Rockets weakest spot is PG position. This trade is perfect! Rockets would be stacked at all positions. And There aren't that many elite Big PGs in the league with experience. BD has made it to the 2nd round!

#303 UrlPerlMonroe, Feb 18, 2009
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If you are trying to win now Davis clearly helps our team, especially if we don't ship Ron out. Davis would put the clutch back into Clutch City. If this rumor about Manu being seriously injured has any truth to it, then that means the West is wide open this year...well, wide open for someone to challenge LA. I still think a PG that can score would make a tremendous impact next to Yao.

That contract is a beast though....not the yearly amount but just the years. But the dude is only 29.

#304 Icehouse, Feb 18, 2009
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alrite this trade is on realgm so everyone knows about it. please get it done!

#305 shortfuse3, Feb 18, 2009
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bwe6dw

If Cavs are willing to take Camby and Kaman... this could work well for the Rockets. What do yall think?

#306 Egghead, Feb 18, 2009
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Well the ESPN article says it would be a 3way that sends VC to them, why wouldnt we just swap cousins? and cut Clips out of the deal? Well maybe we send Kaman to a third team for a decent guard. Ok its making sense.

#307 HTown_TMac, Feb 18, 2009

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I'm not sure why some people are so against the deal... The rockets are in it to win it RIGHT now.. Screw waiting for some superstar pick up down the road that may not even happen.

If the clippers are dumb enough to trade BD and (Kaman or Camby) for Tmac (basically nothing) then I'm all for it. We pick up parts that we are actually in need of (ie a pg and a back up C)

#308 Grimm920, Feb 18, 2009
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Well the ESPN article says it would be a 3way that sends VC to them, why wouldnt we just swap cousins? and cut Clips out of the deal? Well maybe we send Kaman to a third team for a decent guard. Ok its making sense.
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No one but LAC liked the deal. Hope something still gets done between Houston and LAC. We'll see.

#309 J.R., Feb 18, 2009
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Egghead said:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bwe6dw

If Cavs are willing to take Camby and Kaman... this could work well for the Rockets. What do yall think?
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Why wouldnt we just flip Kaman for someone that helps our team? And Camby isnt going anywhere.

#310 HTown_TMac, Feb 18, 2009
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I'm not sure why some people are so against the deal... The rockets are in it to win it RIGHT now.. Screw waiting for some superstar pick up down the road that may not even happen.

If the clippers are dumb enough to trade BD and (Kaman or Camby) for Tmac (basically nothing) then I'm all for it. We pick up parts that we are actually in need of (ie a pg and a back up C)
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Exactly...team has been looking for more size and better point guard play...and it's sitting right there waiting for us with how desperate the Clips seem to get rid of Baron and Kaman.

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it's like no one has watched baron played this year. the dude is garbage right now.

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blink said:

it's like no one has watched baron played this year. the dude is garbage right now.
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Because he is playing for the clips. He will pick his game up going to a playoff contention team.

#313 UrlPerlMonroe, Feb 18, 2009

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blink said:

it's like no one has watched baron played this year. the dude is garbage right now.
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Yeah, lets just head into the playoffs with Rafer running the show...

#314 Chuck 4, Feb 18, 2009
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blink said:

it's like no one has watched baron played this year. the dude is garbage right now.
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And tmac is nothing. I would rather have an extra player going into the playoffs than in injured p***y "superstar"

#315 rhino17, Feb 18, 2009
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blink said:

it's like no one has watched baron played this year. the dude is garbage right now.
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baron is unhappy at work and his play reflects it. if you put him in a better situation like the rockets have, he will be happy and resume elite point guard status.

#316 DVauthrin, Feb 18, 2009
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the mike miller trade works.

Houston gets: B.Davis & M. Miller

Minnesota gets : Kaman

Clips get: Luther head & T wack... i mean mac

#317 Rockets_blood, Feb 18, 2009
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We're also not getting Wade or Lebron... the only guy we have a shot at getting in 2010 is C.Bosh...seeing as how he's from Texas and he might like to play here. If we aren't getting any of those 3 then no one like Joe Johnson isn't going to elevate this team.

Having a lineup of

Baron
Battier
Artest
Scola
Yao

Is better than letting Artest walk and having a possible 2010 lineup of

Brooks
Joe Johnson
Older Battier
older Scola
Older Yao

All these people wanting Joe Johnson so bad... If Tmac near his prime wasn't able to get us outta the first round...what makes everyone think Joe Johnson will be when Tmac was a better player than Joe Johnson?

#318 JayGoogle, Feb 18, 2009

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HTown_TMac said:

Well the ESPN article says it would be a 3way that sends VC to them, why wouldnt we just swap cousins? and cut Clips out of the deal? Well maybe we send Kaman to a third team for a decent guard. Ok its making sense.
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The article also claimed there was a Carter-McGrady deal on the tables that died once the news McGrady needed microfracture came out.

#319 worzel gummidge, Feb 18, 2009
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The article also claimed there was a Carter-McGrady deal on the tables that died once the news McGrady needed microfracture came out.
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maybe vince told tmac... like a warning....i dunno

#320 Rockets_blood, Feb 18, 2009

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