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Syrians or North Carolinians?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by B-Bob, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. B-Bob

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    CF's own Will writes darkly on domestic terrorists from the Carolinas.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/robert_lewis_dear_is_one_of_many_religious_extremists_bred_in_north_carolina.html

    I am fond of the Carolinas (both), but I had never known just how many violent idiots emanated from the region in the last 20 years or so. I don't think he's actually suggesting we wall off NC, of course, but just underlining the absurdity of similar arguments made for groups of people who aren't actually hurting us.

    Here is just a small excerpt that gets the main point across.

    "Today, Republican presidential candidates are climbing over one another in a race to block the entry of Syrian refugees. They’re doing this even though, among the nearly 800,000 refugees we’ve accepted since 9/11, not one has been convicted of—or has even been arrested for—plotting a terror attack in this country. (A few have been arrested for links to terrorism elsewhere.) Why do refugees have such a clean record? Because they have to go through an elaborate process: screening by U.N. evaluators, “biometric and biographic checks,” consultations with U.S. counterterrorism agencies, and an in-person interview with the Department of Homeland Security. On average, the process takes about a year and a half—or, in the case of Syrian refugees, about two years.

    Terrorists from North Carolina encounter no such scrutiny. They just climb into their cars, cross the border, and proceed to Georgia, Kansas, or Colorado. They’re protected by Article IV of the Constitution, which, as interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, guarantees citizens “the right of free ingress into other States.” That’s why, among the 27 fatal terror attacks inflicted in this country since 9/11, 20 were committed by domestic right-wing extremists. (The other seven attacks were committed by domestic jihadists, not by foreign terrorist organizations.) Of the 77 people killed in these 27 incidents, two-thirds died at the hands of anti-abortion fanatics, “Christian Identity” zealots, white anti-Semites, or other right-wing militants.

    This week’s carnage in Colorado brings the death toll from North Carolinian terrorists, including Eric Rudolph, to eight. That’s just one shy of the nine people murdered in Charleston. Throw in the work of a few lesser miscreants, and you’re looking at roughly 20 casualties inflicted by Carolina extremists.
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    Those movements wrap flag and bible around their extremist views and wait until there's an opportunity to grow.

    We're more familiar with their distortions against mainstream beliefs. With Isis and Islam, there's a larger gap in knowledge and exposure that makes us more pliable to Fox News or other outlets originally designed to inform rather than mislead.

    The whole second amendment debate makes this messier and far more a wedge issue than it has to be.
     
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    I think it has less to do with knowledge, data or being informed. That certainly help, but I believe it's not the main factor. Faced with data and being informed doesn't matter much against certain mindset and views. A view that is driven by fear, lack of trust and have strong beliefs in certain things such as one religion. Knowledge and data loses any day against those factors.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    A Wall around Carolina?
    I would never discount anything because there were movements to . . . .deter people from relocating after Katrina

    Then again . . . that was mainly for those of a darker hue

    Rocket River
     

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