[Syria] For the rebels of Aleppo: It's all over but the crying

Ask Israel. They wanted this.

 

Good. Keep it Israel. Forever.

 

The troops are already there though especially up in the East. So there's no additional funding or anything Congress needs to approve. Right now I assume ISIS leaders want badly to get militia groups inside of Damascus, but they are up in the North East part of the country. What I'm saying is the US is going to be on high alert for ISIS groups sprinting towards the capital, and our troops are likely going to strike hard when they make that move.

John Kirby yesterday said as much in an interview that this is the plan so it's not a big secret. Right now The Road to Damascus is going to be like Fury Road in Mad Max. The US will see it's job as the police of the road keeping all the bad actors out of Damascus until a legitimate regime can take over, and stabilize the country.

This is definitely in Trump's best interest for sure. ISIS infiltrating Damascus, and causing issues or a civil war would be catastrophic. Maybe Trump wants that though I dunno...he's a weird guy who hates America.... but it's not in the best interest of anyone other than those who want chaos as an excuse to do whatever for bad actors to make a move for Damascus.

So when people say "The US should stay out of it" I kind of scratch my head a little bit. A. We are already involved. B. If we truly stepped away it would be against the US' interest. C. Would be blamed for things even if we stepped away, and D. If we truly stepped out of involvement in anything we wouldn't be the most wealthy and powerful country in the world.

If that's something you don't want anymore fine, but there's a price to pay for isolation. Do you like your new F150, 2.5 gas, trips to Vegas, and being able to eat out at Perry's Steakhouse???... Well then you probably want a United States that gets involved in sh$t so we can pursue our interests that creates the world of privilege we live in today.

 

One of the few times you will ever catch me agreeing with Michael Knowles.

I don't know how many times we can watch this movie play out before we realize that the new boss is almost always worse than the old boss.

 

This is what Israel wants, move all these people to Europe/the west. Are you ready? They'll be flooding Germany soon enough



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Al Qaeda or the mullahs in iran...think fast on who you'd rather....

 

I haven't seen a lot of celebrating - but maybe I am not paying enough attention.

I also have not seen a lot of optimism outside of Syria.

Their prior ruler was not a good person - but at least there was stability and some degree of normality as long as you did not cross the wrong person.

Now - there is no stability and we have Israel using American weapons playing expansionist in the region.

I cannot possibly stress how badly the USA and UK has ****ed up in the Middle East........ Russia deserves a mention as well, as the collapse of power in Syria is also, yet another Russian defeat in a region that the West should have no involvement in beyond trade.

 

Not shocked at all.

That region of the world is made up of many small tribes and factions that do not have definitive borders or rules.

Many small groups have been all but erased over the years.

Iraq has surprisingly not been as bad as expected after the US left - but even then, there has been murders, slavery and efforts to destroy groups or people.

 

Based on what he posted I wouldn't be giving the "not shocked at all" response because there is no evidence to that claim from someone on twitter, and we know that ATW traffics in Kremlin propaganda constantly. Actually the reports on the ground have been consistent that at least for now Al Jalani is trying really hard to avoid the problematic brutal actions, and is taking his cues from the Taliban's sort of reform (if you want to call it that) where they refrained from brutality to try and gain legitimacy upon retaking Afghanistan.

Now... OF COURSE that all could change, and we know Al Jalani's background so it's possible this type of brutality happens, but right now what you are responding to with ATW is pure fiction... likely from a pro Assad pro Kremlin account on Twitter.

I think we need to do better than that here. No it won't be shocking at all if terrorist tactics surface in brutal ways, but there's no evidence yet that I've seen to justify this claim on twitter.

 

I will just say this - I will be shocked if there isn't violence, oppression and sectarian violence in Syria based on the history of the Middle East as a tribal region where national borders mean nothing to most people.

I love the Middle East - it means a lot to me - but it has long been an area where local violence occurs because of the nature and history of the cultures in the region. It is a very tribal area, where many minority groups have tried to keep their own distinct identity.

 

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That's just more a technicality. Russia, China, Iran, and NK certainly made moves knowing Trump preferred isolationism.

 

Pro Iranian sources reporting......

 

It makes it harder Russia to continue it's own imperialist agenda as its Syrian bases allowed it better access to Africa and obviously the ME. Iran was using Assad/Syria to run weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah. We will see if Russia can reach an agreement with the rebel groups.... but Russia also indiscriminately bombed population centers for Assad.

It's just wishful thinking that the US will stay out of it directly or indirectly. I also think the US should be somewhat directly and indirectly involved. I certainly understand why Iraq and Afghanistan loom so large in the public's mind, but we aren't going to be sending tens of thousands of troops and contractors to militarily hold and govern. The US has overall been moving away assets from the ME/Afghanistan and that's not going to change because of how much oil and gas production has changed in the last decade.

 

Feel good America **** Yeah story for one of our cluster**** proxy wars. I'd put the blame more on Obama/Hillary than Trump for this one.

The result of that Syrian Proxy War was also why I'd dump tens of billions on Ukranians (payback is in the pricetag) rather than having American soldiers/contractors secretly deployed to god forsaken regions to protect oil refineries or whatever tf is of "national interest".

 

I hope they can bring some swift justice to the ISIS detainees in Syria.