Syria different than Libya ?

Mathloom · Feb 9, 2012

AroundTheWorld said: ↑

So you want Syria to be hostile to the US. Interesting.
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I want Syria to be what Syrians want it to be.

basso · Feb 9, 2012

Major said: ↑

Where did he say this as as universal statement?
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HorryForThree · Feb 9, 2012

The hacker group Anonymous hacked into the inboxes of Bashar Assad's aides and has posted their passwords (funny that most of them are literally '12345'). You can read an article about it here.

Below is an email from U.N.-based press aide Sheherazad Jaafari to Damascus-based press aide Luna Chebel on how Assad should handle the interview with Barbara Walters that was aired on ABC.

Hello dear,

Please let me know if you need anything else.
Barbara will be here on the 2nd and the interview will be on the 4th because she is leaving on the 6th so that would give you some time to do the editing.

Thank you.

After doing a major research on the American Media's coverage on the Syrian issue and the American Society's perspective of what is happening on the Syrian ground, I have concluded some important points that might be helpful for the preparation of the upcoming interview with Barbara Walters.

I based my research on online articles written about the Syrian issue, my personal contacts with the American journalists, my father and Syrian expatriates in the States.

The Major points and dimensions that has been mentioned a lot in the American media are:

The Violence:
* The idea of violence has been one of the major subjects brought up in every article. They use the phrases "the Syrian government is killing its own people", "Tanks have been used in many cities", "airplanes have been used to suppress the peaceful demonstrations" and "Security forces are criminals and bloody".

Bloodshed:
· Bloodshed is another subject brought up in the American media. There is no mention of how many "soldiers and security forces have been killed". They think that bloodshed is done by the government to attack the "innocent civilians" and "peaceful demonstrators". Mentioning "armed groups" in the interview is extremely important and we can use "American and British articles" to prove that there are "armed gangs".

Reform:
· The American audience doesn't really care about reforms. They won't understand it and they are not interested to do so. Thus, a brief mention of the reforms done in the past couple of months is more than enough.
· It is very important to mention the huge economical and political transformation that Syria has gone through in the last 11 years. Somehow, there needs to be a clarification that reform started since H.E took the office.

Mistakes:
· It is hugely important and worth mentioning that "mistakes" have been done in the beginning of the crises because we did not have a well-organized "police force". American Psyche can be easily manipulated when they hear that there are "mistakes" done and now we are "fixing it". Its worth mentioning also what is happening now in Wall Street and the way the demonstrations are been suppressed by police men, police dogs and beatings.

Torture Policy:
"Syria doesn't have a policy to torture people" unlike the USA, where there are courses and schools that specializes in teaching police men and officers how to torture criminals and "outlaws". For instace, "the electric chair and killing through injecting an overdose amount of medicine"...etc.
*We can use Abu Ghraib in Iraq as an example.

The Comments:
· The comments that follow any article in the American Media are a very important tool to use in the interview. The Americans now believe that their government has failed two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are asking their government to stop interfering in other countries businesses and sovereignty and to start taking care of the American internal issues.

Obama popularity's decline and incline through the past 3 years:
· It is worth mentioning that when Obama asked H.E to step down he himself have had a 70% decrease of his popularity in the States.
· It would be worth mentioning how your personality has been attacked and praised in the last decade according to the media. At one point H.E was viewed as a hero and in other times H.E was the "bad guy". Americans love these kinds of things and get convinced by it.

Facebook and You tube:
This is very important to the American mindset. The fact that Facebook and youtube are open now-especially during the crises- is important.

The International media:
· We should mention that in the first month the international media was allowed in Syria. Both al Jazeera and al Arabia's offices were open but when they started to manipulate what is happening and "make up facts", the Syrian government became more cautious about who will enter the country.

10) Civil war in Syria and the neighboring countries:
We can use Noland and Hillary's statements encouraging armed groups to not give up their weapons as a "clear" way of asking for a civil war in Syria.

11) The opposition:
* a brief mention of the opposition "figures". Syria doesn't have an opposition leader with a "ready" agenda; they are all from the previous generation. The opposition was asked to meet by the Syrian government but most of them refused to attend.

Key Points:
The government's crackdown, the bloody regime, civil war, security forces and violence, Tanks, you tube torture clips, Pres. Assad IGNORES the bloodshed and the "help" of other countries and the Arab League", Army defectors, Robert Fords return to the US for "Security reasons", Syria is an authoritarian government.

The Broadcasting hours and channels:
· The interview will be broadcast across ABC News platforms - including World News, Good Morning America, This Week, ABC Radio, a full edition of Nightline, and full-length treatment across the digital space (for ABC News this now includes Yahoo as well - which means you can reach as many as 100 million people. ABC News and Yahoo recently joined forces - which is another reason why so many people now bring their interviews to us).

The exact dates/times for all these broadcasts depends on when the interview is done.

This is all ABC News - every platform. The entire interview would run on ABC News Digital; "Nightline" will devote an entire broadcast; "World News" at least one night, maybe two; "Good Morning America" a segment; "This Week" a segment. And so on.
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Major · Feb 9, 2012

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Snippets of a speech with key parts taken out and other parts included that list parameters for intervention does not make for a simple universal statement. Try again.

shipwreck · Feb 9, 2012

Mathloom said: ↑

I want Syria to be what Syrians want it to be.
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How progressive of you. Defense of self determination has never been your strength.

Syria is an entirely different ballgame, because of it's history, density, and demographics, mostly.

Remember, Assad was never trained to rule. His brother was supposed to be the ruler, and was killed. Assad's schooling is in medicine and he falls short of the powerful dictator's persona his brother had worked to cultivate. He will eventually paint himself into a corner, the only question is whether or not the Syrian people will have the resources to survive, and outlast the regime.

I am emphatically opposed to sending any US troops to anywhere in the Middle East. It is clear they will need help on the ground and ostensibly air support as well, though I just can't stand the thought of another decade, or **** even one week, fraught with death(s) of even one single American soldier.

JuanValdez · Feb 9, 2012

basso said: ↑

true, but Obama has said the US must intervene to stop the slaughter of innocents. far more innocents are being slaughtered in Syria than Libya.

militarily, they're certainly different challenges.

politically, they're identical.
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How can they be the same politically when they are different militarily? To do an air campaign like they did in Libya would be impossible without killing civilians all over. The only way to avoid bombing civilians would be ground troops, which would be a terrible idea in every imaginable way and a very very different animal politically.

Libya was low-hanging fruit. An oil-rich dictator we already hated with very few powerful friends who already lost half his country to a revolution before anyone even noticed, and a geography that made a bombing campaign very effective. How often does that happen? Libya isn't a template for anything; that'll never happen again.

pgabriel · Feb 9, 2012

JuanValdez said: ↑

How can they be the same politically when they are different militarily? To do an air campaign like they did in Libya would be impossible without killing civilians all over. The only way to avoid bombing civilians would be ground troops, which would be a terrible idea in every imaginable way and a very very different animal politically.

Libya was low-hanging fruit. An oil-rich dictator we already hated with very few powerful friends who already lost half his country to a revolution before anyone even noticed, and a geography that made a bombing campaign very effective. How often does that happen? Libya isn't a template for anything; that'll never happen again.
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this is why obama is so good for the time he is in. these are complicated issues and we don't need gwb's cookie cutter strategy to everything. gwb used that strategy because he always wanted to go into iraq.

every situation is unique, its not pleasant to watch what's going on in syria but especially without a strong coalition with un members the us can't go into syria

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