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Synergy sports defensive stats for some players

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haoafu, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. Lihao

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    you can't be serious. Lin/Harden will stand a better change against Wade than Parsons to Lebron. as much as i dislike Lebron, the way he's playing now, only Lebron can stop Lebron
     
  2. Lorenzomax

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    This.

    Some of the fans here just want to downplay Lin's D.

    Lin's D is fxxxxxx underrated.

    22% - this is the % that Lin forced his opponents to turn the ball over when they were driving to the lane. He is a defensive beast indeed!

    Many players didn't play enough minutes to get their right to be ranked.

    For example: M.Morris, 0.4 ppp 5 for 22 so ... small example...

    according to this... 1.03 ppp by Harden is really terrible...

    Harden is a black-hole on the defensive end right now.

    Many players didn't play enough minutes to get their right to be ranked.

    For example: M.Morris, 0.4 ppp 5 for 22 so ... small sample...

    according to this... 1.03 ppp by Harden is really terrible...

    Harden is a black-hole on the defensive end right now.

    Excuse...

    Lin also played with our "pretty terrible second unit" in the last 2 games. So did Parsons in all 6 games.

    Agreed. Harden is saving his energy and PF to play 40+ mins. I blame this on bad coaching and bad rotation.
     
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  3. haoafu

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    Yes they count the steals, but I don't think all are counted. Sometimes his steals come from help defense.
     
  4. dragonz

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    I watch games, and I see Patterson gives up ground all the time to other team big men, where are your eyes?
     
  5. Shawndme7

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    can we get an update?
     
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    Wait till we play 30 games before you look into any kind of defensive stats.
     
  8. Shawndme7

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    Interesting but how do I see individual player impact like teh original poster had. Im interested to see Harden, lin, Parsons, and Asik and their impact 1 on 1.
     
  9. haoafu

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    Update after 11 games:

    Overall PPP(Point per possession allowed):

    Lin: 0.76(ranked 70 in NBA for all positions so far)
    Harden: 0.94(ranked 219)
    Parsons: 0.9(ranked 185)
    Patterson: 0.88(ranked 172)
    Asik: 0.9(ranked 185)
    Douglas: 0.84(ranked 142)
    Morris: 0.7(ranked 45)


    Below is the stats from last season:

    Lin: 0.81(ranked 128)
    Harden: 0.85(ranked 218)
    Parsons:0.83(ranked 166)
    Patterson: 0.89(ranked 302)
    Asik:0.71(ranked 24)
    Douglas: 0.87(ranked 257)
    Morris: 0.98(ranked 422)

    Marcus Morris had a big jump from last year. It's still early and he's playing backup minutes, but you have to love his improvement.

    Lin improved from last season and is a very good defender.

    Asik's stats took a hit especially after the lakers/Utah game facing elite big men in the NBA. He should be back but seems to be less efficient on defense than last season with starting minutes.

    Parsons is less efficient on defense but it's understandable with his increased minutes and responsibility on offense.

    Douglas showed some improvement so far.

    Harden has a long way to go, but his overall package is still promising at such a young age.
     
  10. Easy

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    Our team defensive rating (DRtg, points per 100 possessions) is 105.2, ranked 20 in the league. A young team usually don't play good team defense.
     
  11. hooroo

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    How is this meaningful to actual defense played by an individual?

    http://www.nba.com/celtics/stats/inside-the-numbers/points-per-possession-pop-up.html
     
  12. haoafu

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    wondering why coach sampson siad TD is better than Lin defensively, 70/142:confused:
     
  14. Solidz75

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    Huh this can't be right. According to Sampson Lin is a big liability in d? Do the coaches even use these stats?
     
  15. hooroo

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    Lin isn't a good defender. Too slow laterally, easy to to change direction on, and he's getting caught in no man's land trying to help. Douglas has been making the same mistakes in trying to help on def.

    Then throw in Harden... Those 3 are just a bad def combo. It's the post-TMac trade all over again where the dribble penetration def from the guards were killing the Rockets/Yao. The Rockets need to find another David Wesley to play behind Lin.
     
  16. haoafu

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    In a few possessions, TD's phisical style and early clock work did make players like Lillard uncomfortable. That may give the coach wrong but strong first impression. Opponents figure it out pretty soon and TD was exposed. I think even Sampson realized it now.
     
  17. Solidz75

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    I take it that u don't believe in these synergy stats.
     
  18. Manilow

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    at least when Lin struggles offensively he tries to make up defensively. but then again he is struggling offensively since coaching is forcing him to patrol the 3 pt line and play spot-up shooter which aren't his best qualities.
     
  19. hooroo

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    I believe this thread is misrepresenting these stats.
     
  20. leslie

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    How is PPP calculated for a player? Does it take into account the defensive (offensive) ratings of his teammates (opponents) on the floor?

    I am interested to know whether synergysports provide the following stats: 1) PPP of teammates when a player is on the court/bench, 2) PPP of a player against different types of offenses, 3) PPP of a player against different types of players, and 4) PPP of a player, given the other four teammates on the court. I guess Rockets also keep track of all these data.
     

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